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[sbfinley]

I’m probably in the minority, but I wish the Hall of Fame would considered the PCL pre-1946 as major league service years. I don’t think it’s necessary to rewrite the record books, but guys like Lefty O’Doul, Buzz Arlett, and Jigger Statz are glaring omissions to me. I’m also of the opinion of that if the Cuban Winter League was important enough for American Baseball executives to try to dictate how the league operated it should be considered a Major League as well.

[jimmer77]

What about Dwight Evans? He seems comparable to Garvey and Parker

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by jimmer77

What about Dwight Evans? He seems comparable to Garvey and Parker

WAR
38.0 Garvey
40.1 Parker
67.2 Evans
Not even close. But Evans gets no love.

[Robbie]

Bobby Grich?

[jingram058]

Probably won't happen, but I would love to see Allen and Boyer in. But that's personal feelings; I don't know their stats.

[cgjackson222]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

WAR
38.0 Garvey
40.1 Parker
67.2 Evans
Not even close. But Evans gets no love.

Dwight Evans, like Bobby Grich, and Keith Hernandez straddle the 1980 cutoff, which I think puts them at a disadvantage.

Garvey and Parker straddle it too. The difference is that unlike Hernandez, Evans or Grich, neither Parker nor Garvey were very productive after 1980, when they hit 30 years old. Yet Garvey and Parker seem to be favored by the committees.

[Bobmc]

Pulling for Tommy John to be elected with an assist from Dr Frank Jobe

288 Wins (most wins following surgery)
Only pitcher to compile 80 or more wins with 3 different major league teams

[Brent G.]

Originally Posted by cgjackson222

Dwight Evans, like Bobby Grich, and Keith Hernandez straddle the 1980 cutoff, which I think puts them at a disadvantage.

Garvey and Parker straddle it too. The difference is that unlike Hernandez, Evans or Grich, neither Parker nor Garvey were very productive after 1980, when they hit 30 years old. Yet Garvey and Parker seem to be favored by the committees.

I'd say Dave Parker did a helluva lot after 1980 ... I mean the dude was getting MVP votes at 38 and 39.

[Exhibitman]

Overall,



We scream bloody murder over Harold Baines (38.8 WAR, 2800+ hits) and they give us Steve Garvey (38.0 WAR. 2599 hits), and Dave Parker (40.0 WAR, 2700+ hits). Same guy. I loathe the Red Sox but, as much as it pains me to say so, Evans is a way better player than any of these guys and is far more deserving of the HOF.

Ken Boyer and Graig Nettles are basically the same guy. Boyer had a better average, Nettles had more pop. 3B is an underrepresented position, so I would be OK with Boyer if Nettles goes too.

Tommy John is a participation trophy, as is Tiant; David Cone, Rick Reuschel and Kevin Brown had similar careers to them. John's wins are an accumulation stat; he averaged 13 per year. It's the Don Drysdale-Milt Pappas argument all over again.

[scotgreb]

As a lifelong Pirates fan, I love(d) Dave Parker -- and Garvey was certainly a great player. I just feel like there are countless others with similar (or better) credentials; namely be beloved Al Oliver.

Every thread needs a card . . .

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[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

Overall,



We scream bloody murder over Harold Baines (38.8 WAR, 2800+ hits) and they give us Steve Garvey (38.0 WAR. 2599 hits), and Dave Parker (40.0 WAR, 2700+ hits). Same guy. I loathe the Red Sox but, as much as it pains me to say so, Evans is a way better player than any of these guys and is far more deserving of the HOF.

Ken Boyer and Graig Nettles are basically the same guy. Boyer had a better average, Nettles had more pop. 3B is an underrepresented position, so I would be OK with Boyer if Nettles goes too.

Tommy John is a participation trophy, as is Tiant; David Cone, Rick Reuschel and Kevin Brown had similar careers to them. John's wins are an accumulation stat; he averaged 13 per year. It's the Don Drysdale-Milt Pappas argument all over again.

Evans was never THE man on teams that had Yaz and Rice and Fisk (and Lynn was more popular), then Boggs. I think that hurt his public perception.