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Old 10-31-2024, 12:17 PM
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Old 10-31-2024, 01:56 PM
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I still don't understand why Cole didn't cover first in that horrific Yankee inning. Come on, man this an elimination WS game. It's your job to do so.
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I still don't understand why Cole didn't cover first in that horrific Yankee inning. Come on, man this an elimination WS game. It's your job to do so.
He would not possibly have beaten Mookie to the bag.

The real question is why did it take Rizzo so long to get to the bag? Was he wearing cement shoes?

Kind of the opposite of the Buckner play in 86. But Mookie hit another slow roller up the line …..
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He would not possibly have beaten Mookie to the bag.

The real question is why did it take Rizzo so long to get to the bag? Was he wearing cement shoes?

Kind of the opposite of the Buckner play in 86. But Mookie hit another slow roller up the line …..
This guy has a good breakdown on why that play went awry.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KXb...onelliBaseball
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Old 10-31-2024, 03:22 PM
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This guy has a good breakdown on why that play went awry.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KXb...onelliBaseball
I'll just steal part of one of the youtube comments :

"Mookie Betts hustles on a play where he is out 99% of the time, Cole doesn't hustle on a play where Mookie is out 99% time."

I will only add "Thank you Mookie!"
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I'll just steal part of one of the youtube comments :

"Mookie Betts hustles on a play where he is out 99% of the time, Cole doesn't hustle on a play where Mookie is out 99% time."

I will only add "Thank you Mookie!"
Good video.

A little bizarre two Mookies, same sort of a hit in the WS.

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As long as the Yankees lose my year was good..
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Rizzo should have been able to handle that play himself. I don’t know what the defensive analytics say, but from the eye test he’s regressed quite a bit defensively. He’s had lapses like that all season, whether they were called “errors” or not.
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Game 5 was a Yankees disaster, no matter how you slice it.

Cole pitched his butt off. The Series should have gone back to LA for a game 6.

This team was a hot and cold team all year, more so than any World Series team in my memory.

Judge - the Captain - is the anti-Captain. He never shows up in the postseason. How do you take your eyes off a fly like that? Judge's boner.

Soto is gone. Probably to the Dodgers, who, like George Steinbrenner, thumb their nose at luxury tax. George's sons are/were NOTHING like their father. If George was still running the show, Boone would have been gone long ago, the Yankees would have unloaded Stanton, and the high-priced free agents brought in would be dumped if they were washed up.

But congrats to the Dodgers. Dave Roberts has evolved into a fine manager. Freddie deserves to be the Series MVP. Soto will almost certainly go to the Dodgers.
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Soto will almost certainly go to the Dodgers.
That would be a b*tch move!

It's like when Kevin Durant couldn't beat the Warriors, so what did he do? He joined them! Yeah, he got his ring, but ruined his reputation forever.
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Yankees had a higher batting average, higher OBP, higher slugging, and lower ERA for the Series than the Dodgers. Still lost.
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I still don't understand why Cole didn't cover first in that horrific Yankee inning. Come on, man this an elimination WS game. It's your job to do so.
Exactly. Make a beeline for first base and take nothing for granted. That should be instinct at this point in his career. You can always get called off and peel away or stop. He took a step or two and then adjusted his angle as if he was headed for the dugout. If he makes that play like he and every MLB pitcher is taught from a fairly young age, Betts is out.
Rizzo is really not much at fault. That ball had obvious spin coming off the end of the bat, sufficient to make him be a bit cautious about simply charging toward the bag. You can see it spinning toward second and he fields it with that motion. If he hard charges and that ball kicks off his glove as its spinning away then two runs score on the play. Plus why would he believe an e xperienced pitcher like Cole would not be doing his job?
Frankly the spin was obvious and Cole should have recognized it. A ball hit off the end of the bat that close to the line is either going to spin (likely) or head straight toward the bag (or foul), and Rizzo was set up between first and second, which again should have alerted Cole to get over either way. My guess he was tired and thought the long-ass inning from hell was over, and just figured he'd head to the dugout. His remarks were simply that he took a bad angle, but that's true IMO only because he did not intend to field or cover and just left it to Rizzo to figure out.
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What happens when a team (Yankees) plays April baseball instead of October baseball. Completely unfathomable collapse--never saw anything like it in all my years......

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Completely unfathomable collapse--never saw anything like it in all my years......
Myself, along with (among others) bmattioli and ClementeFanOh and Snowman, are quite happy that you did.
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Exactly. Make a beeline for first base and take nothing for granted. That should be instinct at this point in his career. You can always get called off and peel away or stop. He took a step or two and then adjusted his angle as if he was headed for the dugout. If he makes that play like he and every MLB pitcher is taught from a fairly young age, Betts is out.
Rizzo is really not much at fault. That ball had obvious spin coming off the end of the bat, sufficient to make him be a bit cautious about simply charging toward the bag. You can see it spinning toward second and he fields it with that motion. If he hard charges and that ball kicks off his glove as its spinning away then two runs score on the play. Plus why would he believe an e xperienced pitcher like Cole would not be doing his job?
Frankly the spin was obvious and Cole should have recognized it. A ball hit off the end of the bat that close to the line is either going to spin (likely) or head straight toward the bag (or foul), and Rizzo was set up between first and second, which again should have alerted Cole to get over either way. My guess he was tired and thought the long-ass inning from hell was over, and just figured he'd head to the dugout. His remarks were simply that he took a bad angle, but that's true IMO only because he did not intend to field or cover and just left it to Rizzo to figure out.
You could also see that Rizzo was prepared to flip it to Cole, only to see Cole nowhere near the bag.
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I figure that Cole either had a brain freeze or just couldn't be bothered with covering first base. It would be interesting to view film of games Cole pitched this year to see if he normally does make a concerted effort to beat the batter to first base on similar grounders to the first basemen.
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