Massive theft at Dallas card show, Nearly 2 Million Dollars worth of cards stolen

[MJRaider]

Originally Posted by Seven

They won't be gone from the Hobby, but certainly cracked and reholdered, a little bit at a time If I had to guess. A shame that these criminals essentially got away with the card heist of the century.

My guess is PSA, SGC, Beckett, and CGC have the card scans and at least some AI to filter out the reholder trickle. At least, I hope so. They all charge enough where you'd hope they could manage something like this on a one-off basis given the gravity and media attention.

[packs]

None of the grading companies have any incentive to filter the cards. The fees are the incentive. I would think they'd be happy to grade the same card a million times regardless of who is submitting it.

[Zach Wheat]

PSA bought Genamint back in 2021 to make hi res scans of cards to serve as "fingerprints".

https://www.actionnetwork.com/news/p...ading-april-21

[raulus]

Originally Posted by Zach Wheat

PSA bought Genamint back in 2021 to make hi res scans of cards to serve as "fingerprints".

https://www.actionnetwork.com/news/p...ading-april-21

Does anyone know to what extent they're actually delivering on that marketing copy?

My experience with these sorts of initiatives springing from acquisitions is that there's often a long lag, and sometimes it never actually happens. Not to mention that even if it is happening, the effectiveness might be a lot lower than advertised.

[Flyball]

Originally Posted by raulus

Does anyone know to what extent they're actually delivering on that marketing copy?

My experience with these sorts of initiatives springing from acquisitions is that there's often a long lag, and sometimes it never actually happens. Not to mention that even if it is happening, the effectiveness might be a lot lower than advertised.

I’ve been wondering if they may be using Genamint and AI technology to keep a running database of card images to determine if a card that may have been previously graded has been resubmitted. If they find a match and see that the resubmitted card looks better than the old image on record, then they would suspect the card is doctored.

They might be analyzing unique card characteristics such as paper fibers and printing variations, among other characteristics.

[Lobo Aullando]

PCGS has been doing that for coins for more than a decade (Secure Plus), so one would hope that similar technology made it "across the hall."

Originally Posted by Flyball

I’ve been wondering if they may be using Genamint and AI technology to keep a running database of card images to determine if a card that may have been previously graded has been resubmitted. If they find a match and see that the resubmitted card looks better than the old image on record, then they would suspect the card is doctored.

They might be analyzing unique card characteristics such as paper fibers and printing variations, among other characteristics.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Zach Wheat

PSA bought Genamint back in 2021 to make hi res scans of cards to serve as "fingerprints".

https://www.actionnetwork.com/news/p...ading-april-21

So they send the PSA cards to a different grader.

[ruth-gehrig]

Originally Posted by Zach Wheat

PSA bought Genamint back in 2021 to make hi res scans of cards to serve as "fingerprints".

https://www.actionnetwork.com/news/p...ading-april-21

See there is no way trimmed or resubmitted cards are going undetected!!

""Based on learnings made from every card, the machine will be able to pick up if a card is trimmed or if a person has cracked out a card that was previously graded in hopes of getting a better grade.""

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by ruth-gehrig

See there is no way trimmed or resubmitted cards are going undetected!!

""Based on learnings made from every card, the machine will be able to pick up if a card is trimmed or if a person has cracked out a card that was previously graded in hopes of getting a better grade.""

Righty-o.