1910 Punch Cobb with backing - New Discovery??

[e107collector]

If anyone knows, when it indicates “backing”, does that refer to the border attached, or is there actually a print advertisement on the back of the card?

[Roland 49]

All the Punch cards inside the cigarette box came glued to that cardboard, and in most cases they were detached and the card was glued to the album, many appeared loose because to have the album you had to go look for it at the Punch cigar factory, very few have been found attached to the original cardboard, in the case of this Ty Cobb, if someone shows me that photo and asks me for $5 dollars, I will not buy it, because in that photo the card cannot be seen well due to to the nylon that covers it, and its state of conservation cannot be seen. When you see the cardboard, you can see a great state of deterioration, therefore the card must also have deterioration, it could be an original card that was recently glued to that cardboard, after remove the one that was originally pasted, it may be a photocopy of Ty Cobb, which they pasted, that is, a fake, I have had the original in my hands and I scanned them and there is something strange in the background of

[MuncieNolePAZ]

Originally Posted by e107collector

If anyone knows, when it indicates “backing”, does that refer to the border attached, or is there actually a print advertisement on the back of the card?

There is a Punch advertisement on the back. I have only seen one.

Chad

[Roland 49]

Now I continue my previous comment, the yellow color that appears at the bottom as in the uniform does not appear on any Punch card, which means that it seems that this card was made with some computer program, I consider that it is a fake pasted on the original cardboard, perhaps they glued it on top of another one or they could have removed the original and glued this one, I repeat that in order to evaluate it you...

[JollyElm]

Hopefully, I'm not alone, but I know nothing about this card, this set and really have no clue what I'm looking at or what the issue is.

Is the rectangular Cobb picture supposedly attached to the scribbly black, handcut background card??
Because the Cobb portion obviously sits in a very visible penny sleeve by itself, right?? It's merely sitting atop whatever the background thing is, and both are inside of a graded card sleeve.

So, if anyone can explain what I'm missing, it would be appreciated.

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[Cubanball]

The 1910 Punch set was produced in Cuba to commemorate the games pitting the Detroit Tigers and the Philadelphia Athletics against the Cuban Habana and Almendares teams. There are 48 cards known with 12 cards for the Detroit Tigers. The cards appear to be small photographic images crudely cut and pasted on a cardboard background. As Rolando explained above most of the cards were removed from the cardboard backing. Finding Punch cards still attached to there cardboard backing is very rare. Most graded examples are missing the backing and receive an Authentic grade. I have attached examples of a card with its backing, the reverse of the backing, a Ty Cobb card without its backing and a graded card to show the size of the cards in a standard SGC slab.

[JollyElm]

Originally Posted by Cubanball

The 1910 Punch set was produced in Cuba to commemorate the games pitting the Detroit Tigers and the Philadelphia Athletics against the Cuban Habana and Almendares teams. There are 48 cards known with 12 cards for the Detroit Tigers. The cards appear to be small photographic images crudely cut and pasted on a cardboard background. As Rolando explained above most of the cards were removed from the cardboard backing. Finding Punch cards still attached to there cardboard backing is very rare. Most graded examples are missing the backing and receive an Authentic grade. I have attached examples of a card with its backing, the reverse of the backing, a Ty Cobb card without its backing and a graded card to show the size of the cards in a standard SGC slab.

Appreciate your overall explanation, thank you. But with regard to the card being discussed in this thread, isn't the Cobb part in a penny sleeve on top of the cardboard backing? Doesn't look like an optical illusion, it looks like plastic, no?

[Cubanball]

I do not think the Cobb card in the picture is in a penny sleeve. Based on the initial description, the photo we see was taken using a phone from a photo on an iPad. This may have caused some distortions in color and reflections we see. I would need to see the card personally to give any kind of verdict on it's authenticity. But I agree with Rolando that going by this photo alone the card looks very suspicious.