BST Section: Has priceless become the norm rather than the exception?

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by bnorth

That is true but at least you don't have to waste your time messaging them to find out they want way more than just buying it elsewhere.

Nobody's making you waste your time. If you think that's the likely outcome, just move on. I am not seeing the problem, much less the moral imperative of listing a price. Then again, I'm an annoying contrarian who is almost always wrong, apparently.

[Carter08]

Sellers can do what they want but have to agree the approach strikes me as lame.

[Peter_Spaeth]

If I list a card on ebay at a prohibitive BIN but with a best offer option, isn't that essentially the same thing? Do people have some moral issue with that?

[G1911]

If it is the norm as the OP says, then isn’t the OP’s opinion the one that is contrarian?

As both sides have been taken already, which opinion would render me a conformist to agree with? Which a contrarian? Is there any moral high ground available to claim?

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by G1911

If it is the norm as the OP says, then isn’t the OP’s opinion the one that is contrarian?

As both sides have been taken already, which opinion would render me a conformist to agree with? Which a contrarian? Is there any moral high ground available to claim?

I think Jason has already claimed it, so no.

[G1911]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

I think Jason has already claimed it, so no.

Dang, I was hoping for some easy virtue space to plant my flag in and claim.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by G1911

Dang, I was hoping for some easy virtue space to plant my flag in and claim.

Sorry. And I've already claimed the contrarian, always wrong ground so no room there either.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Nobody's making you waste your time. If you think that's the likely outcome, just move on. I am not seeing the problem, much less the moral imperative of listing a price. Then again, I'm an annoying contrarian who is almost always wrong, apparently.

I have bought a lot of cards on here over the years so with sellers that have been on here for a while you can lean who messaging is a waste of time or someone that will work with you. LOL, even IF you are almost always wrong I still like you.

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

If I list a card on ebay at a prohibitive BIN but with a best offer option, isn't that essentially the same thing? Do people have some moral issue with that?

Not really because it is just sending a number that takes a few seconds. I do not add notes or negotiate. I just send one offer and I get the card or don't.

Originally Posted by G1911

If it is the norm as the OP says, then isn’t the OP’s opinion the one that is contrarian?

As both sides have been taken already, which opinion would render me a conformist to agree with? Which a contrarian? Is there any moral high ground available to claim?

Not really just a bunch of old guys complaining.

[timn1]

I think you have arrived at the heart of the matter!

Seems to me a lot of grumbling on all sides about basically nothing....

Originally Posted by G1911

If it is the norm as the OP says, then isn’t the OP’s opinion the one that is contrarian?

As both sides have been taken already, which opinion would render me a conformist to agree with? Which a contrarian? Is there any moral high ground available to claim?

[frankbmd]

I will add my grumble, but will only reveal it for the best offer.

[Fred]

I'm usually a hard pass on most BST items because the prices are a bit "optimistic" from a sellers stand point. I did recently purchase a card that was priced right, but that's the exception rather than the rule. I check it daily because every once in a while, something shows up that I'd like to have (at a reasonable price). But again, not that often any more.

I've made a few trades that started on the BST. The toughest part is having two parties that have a clue about card values and neither needing to feel they have to come out ahead. The way I see it, if I'm on the "under" side of a trade, then it's because it was my choice and I did so because I wanted to add something to my collection that I'd otherwise have to pay for. I like trading, it used to be a fun part of the hobby many years ago.

The BST isn't dead. You just have to be patient and wade through a lot of stuff that is more than optimistically priced.

[raulus]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

If I list a card on ebay at a prohibitive BIN but with a best offer option, isn't that essentially the same thing? Do people have some moral issue with that?

There do seem to be plenty of complaints about this approach utilized by sellers. Not sure that it’s a moral issue so much as merely irritating.

[Balticfox]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

If I list a card on ebay at a prohibitive BIN but with a best offer option, isn't that essentially the same thing? Do people have some moral issue with that?

Moral?! I can't speak for other people, but I don't have moral issues with any kind of pricing. Any objections I might have would be some combination of economic and aesthetic.