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Old 09-19-2024, 07:06 AM
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Every time I see these new cards selling for more than the great old ones, I just shake my head. And that is why there is chocolate and vanilla. I don't even know of 99% of the new players. I would if I cared, I guess.

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Old 09-19-2024, 07:16 AM
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+1 for what Leon said.

I was once told I wasn't a baseball fan; and it shocked me, the comment was from a good friend who collected the old cards (our cards) and knew tons more about them than I did... we'd gone to MLB games together, even a WS game.

He told me I was not a fan of modern baseball with outrageous salaries, through the roof ticket prices, $11 beer... instead, I was a fan of 19th and 20th century baseball. He was right.

I can watch an all-star game and know just a hand full of players. I'd not go to the home run thing the night before the AS game if I was given tickets, lodging, and airfare.
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As a younger person, I would have flipped out for the streaming games we have now. I'm still a bit amazed how easy the access is for high quality streams.

MLB Players Alumni Association $25 membership. Half off the $140 MLB.tv streaming package. $95 a year for everything (local blackouts apply). This is a golden era of game consumption.

I watch many 100s of hours of games per season and it's awesome. I'm very thankful to live in this era and if/when the era of local blackouts come it should only get better.
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As a younger person, I would have flipped out for the streaming games we have now. I'm still a bit amazed how easy the access is for high quality streams.

MLB Players Alumni Association $25 membership. Half off the $140 MLB.tv streaming package. $95 a year for everything (local blackouts apply). This is a golden era of game consumption.

I watch many 100s of hours of games per season and it's awesome. I'm very thankful to live in this era and if/when the era of local blackouts come it should only get better.
I agree with you. I recently got back into watching baseball after a 30 year break, and I love it. The game is much more accessible now.
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As a younger person, I would have flipped out for the streaming games we have now. I'm still a bit amazed how easy the access is for high quality streams.

MLB Players Alumni Association $25 membership. Half off the $140 MLB.tv streaming package. $95 a year for everything (local blackouts apply). This is a golden era of game consumption.

I watch many 100s of hours of games per season and it's awesome. I'm very thankful to live in this era and if/when the era of local blackouts come it should only get better.
Are you a former player?

Or is the alumni association open to everyone?
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Old 09-24-2024, 07:45 AM
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Are you a former player?

Or is the alumni association open to everyone?
Not a former player, there's a fan option. $25/year. It comes with some discount perks that may help some chip away at the cost if they use the services.

The main big perk is mlb.tv is 50% off if you're a member.
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+1 for what Leon said.

I was once told I wasn't a baseball fan; and it shocked me, the comment was from a good friend who collected the old cards (our cards) and knew tons more about them than I did... we'd gone to MLB games together, even a WS game.

He told me I was not a fan of modern baseball with outrageous salaries, through the roof ticket prices, $11 beer... instead, I was a fan of 19th and 20th century baseball. He was right.

I can watch an all-star game and know just a hand full of players. I'd not go to the home run thing the night before the AS game if I was given tickets, lodging, and airfare.


I couldn't agree with you more. Each year I am less and less interested in modern MLB. The micromanaging rule changes, disrespectful players, etc. I recently dumped all my modern crap and switched to pre-war. I'm never going back.
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Old 09-19-2024, 08:43 AM
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If disrespectful players keep you from enjoying the game, then I don't think you would have enjoyed 19th and turn of the 20th century baseball. The game was perceived as being solely for disrespectful people of ill repute. This was mentioned many times in many stories throughout the Glory of Their Times.
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If disrespectful players keep you from enjoying the game, then I don't think you would have enjoyed 19th and turn of the 20th century baseball. The game was perceived as being solely for disrespectful people of ill repute. This was mentioned many times in many stories throughout the Glory of Their Times.


**** Let me clarify: Players that don't respect the game. Hot dogs, showboats, etc. This was not tolerated in as little as 40 years ago. And this is simply one small factor. The silly changes(pitch clock, base enlarging, lack of strategy/all or nothing Home Run approach) are much larger that the the Eloys and Tatis types that ass up the game today.

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Old 09-19-2024, 10:53 AM
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**** Let me clarify: Players that don't respect the game. Hot dogs, showboats, etc. This was not tolerated in as little as 40 years ago. And this is simply one small factor. The silly changes(pitch clock, base enlarging, lack of strategy/all or nothing Home Run approach) are much larger that the the Eloys and Tatis types that ass up the game today.

Wasn't it exciting to do well when you were younger? I don't understand why older people are upset when young people have a good time. When I was 21, if I cranked a 450 foot homer to deep center in the 9th inning of a major league baseball game, yeah, I'm going to go nuts. And it's not going to bother me if some older person in the stands who didn't hit a home run doesn't like how excited I am for hitting mine.

These are grown men playing a children's game for a living, after all. How serious should you be?

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Old 09-19-2024, 11:44 AM
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It took me a little while, but I have gotten to really enjoy all the whooping and hollering in today's game - now when I see footage from the 1950s where a player does something special and then he and his teammates barely react, it seems unnatural. Today's game may be less stately or elegant, but it's a lot more fun to watch. The recent rule changes (pitch clock, limiting pitching changes) have helped with quickening the pace of games. And what magic could possibly be lost by making the bases two inches wider and encouraging more steals? I just wish they could figure out a way to reduce strikeouts and get OPS up some....

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Wasn't it exciting to do well when you were younger? I don't understand why older people are upset when young people have a good time. When I was 21, if I cranked a 450 foot homer to deep center in the 9th inning of a major league baseball game, yeah, I'm going to go nuts. And it's not going to bother me if some older person in the stands who didn't hit a home run doesn't like how excited I am for hitting mine.

These are grown men playing a children's game for a living, after all. How serious should you be?

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Wasn't it exciting to do well when you were younger? I don't understand why older people are upset when young people have a good time. When I was 21, if I cranked a 450 foot homer to deep center in the 9th inning of a major league baseball game, yeah, I'm going to go nuts. And it's not going to bother me if some older person in the stands who didn't hit a home run doesn't like how excited I am for hitting mine.

These are grown men playing a children's game for a living, after all. How serious should you be?
Well, ask a players agent how serious baseball is. And I am not begrudging anyone making what they can. It is a game, but kind of a high stakes one.

I was out with the 1994 half season strike. I just really never went back to it. Too many other things to distract me. And I am happy there are so many fans today. If baseball wasn't popular then collecting baseball cards wouldn't be as popular and fun. New baseball stuff is great for 98% of the guys on this forum, probiably. Then, there are the other 2 percent of us.

I loved playing baseball (still pay a little softball) and watching the games when I was younger. If everyone were the same the world would be a boring place. Go Rangers!
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I couldn't agree with you more. Each year I am less and less interested in modern MLB. The micromanaging rule changes, disrespectful players, etc. I recently dumped all my modern crap and switched to pre-war. I'm never going back.
Yeah, back in the day we'd never have had a left-handed superstar pitcher punch an umpire after walking the first batter in a game.

Or a team going on strike to defend a teammate who beat up a fan.

Or a team conspiring to intentionally lose a championship.
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Yeah, back in the day we'd never have had a left-handed superstar pitcher punch an umpire after walking the first batter in a game.

Or a team going on strike to defend a teammate who beat up a fan.

Or a team conspiring to intentionally lose a championship.
Yeah, and back in the day they had this too.

This is when MLB lost me and I never cared to go back.

1994 MLB Season
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Owners and players were at loggerheads over a proposed salary cap and revenue-sharing agreement



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Old 09-20-2024, 11:24 AM
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Among active players you have Trout with 3 MVPs, Ohtani about to win his third, Judge about to win his second, and Harper with 2 MVPs to himself.

There have only been 11 players ever to win three or more MVP awards. There could potentially be 4 of them playing at the same time in the coming years.

Ohtani will become the 12th. Judge is 32 and Harper is 31.

I don't understand any avoidance of the modern game. Right now, you have the opportunity to watch a sport with some of the most dominant players you will see in your lifetime all active at the same time and in their primes. Even if Trout is oft injured, he's still just 33 years old.

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