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Old 09-19-2024, 08:43 AM
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If disrespectful players keep you from enjoying the game, then I don't think you would have enjoyed 19th and turn of the 20th century baseball. The game was perceived as being solely for disrespectful people of ill repute. This was mentioned many times in many stories throughout the Glory of Their Times.
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If disrespectful players keep you from enjoying the game, then I don't think you would have enjoyed 19th and turn of the 20th century baseball. The game was perceived as being solely for disrespectful people of ill repute. This was mentioned many times in many stories throughout the Glory of Their Times.


**** Let me clarify: Players that don't respect the game. Hot dogs, showboats, etc. This was not tolerated in as little as 40 years ago. And this is simply one small factor. The silly changes(pitch clock, base enlarging, lack of strategy/all or nothing Home Run approach) are much larger that the the Eloys and Tatis types that ass up the game today.

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Old 09-19-2024, 10:53 AM
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**** Let me clarify: Players that don't respect the game. Hot dogs, showboats, etc. This was not tolerated in as little as 40 years ago. And this is simply one small factor. The silly changes(pitch clock, base enlarging, lack of strategy/all or nothing Home Run approach) are much larger that the the Eloys and Tatis types that ass up the game today.

Wasn't it exciting to do well when you were younger? I don't understand why older people are upset when young people have a good time. When I was 21, if I cranked a 450 foot homer to deep center in the 9th inning of a major league baseball game, yeah, I'm going to go nuts. And it's not going to bother me if some older person in the stands who didn't hit a home run doesn't like how excited I am for hitting mine.

These are grown men playing a children's game for a living, after all. How serious should you be?

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Old 09-19-2024, 11:44 AM
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It took me a little while, but I have gotten to really enjoy all the whooping and hollering in today's game - now when I see footage from the 1950s where a player does something special and then he and his teammates barely react, it seems unnatural. Today's game may be less stately or elegant, but it's a lot more fun to watch. The recent rule changes (pitch clock, limiting pitching changes) have helped with quickening the pace of games. And what magic could possibly be lost by making the bases two inches wider and encouraging more steals? I just wish they could figure out a way to reduce strikeouts and get OPS up some....

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Wasn't it exciting to do well when you were younger? I don't understand why older people are upset when young people have a good time. When I was 21, if I cranked a 450 foot homer to deep center in the 9th inning of a major league baseball game, yeah, I'm going to go nuts. And it's not going to bother me if some older person in the stands who didn't hit a home run doesn't like how excited I am for hitting mine.

These are grown men playing a children's game for a living, after all. How serious should you be?

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Wasn't it exciting to do well when you were younger? I don't understand why older people are upset when young people have a good time. When I was 21, if I cranked a 450 foot homer to deep center in the 9th inning of a major league baseball game, yeah, I'm going to go nuts. And it's not going to bother me if some older person in the stands who didn't hit a home run doesn't like how excited I am for hitting mine.

These are grown men playing a children's game for a living, after all. How serious should you be?
Well, ask a players agent how serious baseball is. And I am not begrudging anyone making what they can. It is a game, but kind of a high stakes one.

I was out with the 1994 half season strike. I just really never went back to it. Too many other things to distract me. And I am happy there are so many fans today. If baseball wasn't popular then collecting baseball cards wouldn't be as popular and fun. New baseball stuff is great for 98% of the guys on this forum, probiably. Then, there are the other 2 percent of us.

I loved playing baseball (still pay a little softball) and watching the games when I was younger. If everyone were the same the world would be a boring place. Go Rangers!
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Old 09-19-2024, 12:26 PM
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I enjoy the history of baseball and the items associated with that more than this new wave of these over inflated value of modern cards.
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I highly suggest anyone who doesn't appreciate "fun baseball" never watch any Dominican Winter League baseball games.

You might give yourself an aneurysm seeing an entire dugout celebrate a game tieing HR in the 3rd inning or pimping a bat flip going 30+ft. into the air.

Actually, it might win some of you over. The players are having more fun than the fans at some points and the fans are having lots of fun.
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Yeah, it's football, but I miss the days of Barry Sanders making sick moves and getting into the end zone, only to then simply flip the ball to the nearest official. No hullabaloo.

When I tune in to Mets games now, every time someone hits a home run they begin pointing to the heavens, the dugout and random places all over the stadium as the lights are dramatically lowered for his celebratory rounding of the bases, but it's not over. Then he and his teammates do their well-choreographed, super duper handshaking/fist bumping line dance sort of thing before heading to the dugout for even more displays of adulation...and all of this pageantry is to celebrate a frickin' solo shot when they were LOSING 8 - 0!!!

Please give me back the old days!!!
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Well, ask a players agent how serious baseball is. And I am not begrudging anyone making what they can. It is a game, but kind of high stakes one.

I was out with the 1994 half season strike. I just really never went back to it. Too many other things to distract me. And I am happy there are so many fans today. If baseball wasn't popular then collecting baseball cards wouldn't be as popular and fun. New baseball stuff is great for 98% of the guys on this forum, probiably. Then, there are the other 2 percent of us.

I loved playing baseball (still pay a little softball) and watching the games when I was younger. If everyone were the same the world would be a boring place. Go Rangers!
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All fair points. I don’t disagree things get serious for you when there’s money involved but it’s still playing baseball for a living. If I made a million dollars a year playing tag professionally I think it would still do me some good to have some perspective about playing tag for a living.
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