1954 Bowman counterfeit method?

[ElJayel]

Hi all,

Here is the update! Sent the card off to SGC for grading and it's back on it's way to me as of today (love the fast SGC turnaround times-they received August 27th).

Card did grade a 3, which is actually higher than I expected. They do list it as an Andy Seminick #172 card, with no mention of Larsen on the label. Thought that a bit strange, since all the other examples posted here had the name of the player on the front of the card listed on the label. Pics of the graded card attached here. Don't yet have it in hand it's currently in the mail from SGC. Hopefully it makes it here safely.

[CardPadre]

Originally Posted by ElJayel

Hi all,

Here is the update! Sent the card off to SGC for grading and it's back on it's way to me as of today (love the fast SGC turnaround times-they received August 27th).

Card did grade a 3, which is actually higher than I expected. They do list it as an Andy Seminick #172 card, with no mention of Larsen on the label. Thought that a bit strange, since all the other examples posted here had the name of the player on the front of the card listed on the label. Pics of the graded card attached here. Don't yet have it in hand it's currently in the mail from SGC. Hopefully it makes it here safely.

I think they did not pay attention to what they were doing. But at least you got it slabbed.

[ElJayel]

Originally Posted by CardPadre

I think they did not pay attention to what they were doing. But at least you got it slabbed.

I guess so. When I submitted it, I listed it as "Don Larsen #101 Seminick wrong back" but they decided to change it to a Seminick identifier.

[Brent G.]

Well I guess SGC just made this oddity a little bit odder ...

[swarmee]

https://forums.collectors.com/discus...-packages-back

[steve B]

Topps reused a lot of stuff.

79 with 78 backs.
Mork and Mindy cards with baseball backs

Bazooka gum boxes with 78 baseball or black hole card backs inside.

[ElJayel]

Back again with the next part of the saga on the 1954 Bowman Don Larsen RC wrong back.

So, after holding the slabbed card for a bit I figured I would probably keep the card as a cool oddity for my small collection. But I didn't like the fact that it was labelled as an Andy Seminck card. It just felt wrong. So, I reached back out to SGC asking why the card was labeled the way it was. I got a prompt response back with apologies that the labeling was an error and they would correct it for free. Sent me an RMA# and a FedEx label to ship the card back. So, I boxed it up and shipped it back off to Florida.

SGC was true to their word to quickly re-slab the card with an updated label. But, the day it was to ship out I received a phone call from SGC informing me that the original label gave the card a numerical grade, whereas it was SGC policy that they could only authenticate wrong backs. So, the card was shipping out to me with the corrected label text but now with an Authentic grade instead of the 3 it had previously. I argued with them saying that there where many examples of SGC graded wrong backs on the market with numerical grades, but they said this was a new policy and that this was my only option. Plus, the card was already slabbed and shipping that day. So, I ended up getting some credit towards a future SGC submission, but I thought they didn't handle it all that well. Anyway, I don't think it changes much about the card as I feel the updated label text is more critical than a low numerical grade.

I got the card back in hand today (see attached pic) and now I'm thinking I'd rather just sell it to someone who would appreciate it more than I would. It was a cool find and good story, but I just don't have any connection to Don Larsen as a player nor any real fascination with card oddities. Hard to determine value with no comps but we will see how it goes.