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I don't know why some people seem to have concluded that it is now going to happen? A lot of wishful thinking it seems to me.
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Unless I am looking at this the wrong way, what incentive is there for Nat to put money into a combined registry? It makes SGC cards more valuable in the market but isn't he in essence just competing against himself?
I prefer SGC to PSA but I must be lacking the long distance vision to see how Collectors benefits by having two separate grading brands. My assumption has been that at some point SGC either gets sold off or folds into PSA.
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I feel Collectors bought SGC to prevent someone else from doing so and as long as they are profitable will keep the brand going but at some point I think it goes away. If they did away with the SGC brand would those collectors not use PSA and go to CGC or Beckett? Maybe SGC loyalists would refuse to cross over?
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Correct. Its not going to happen.
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I doubt it and some vanilla quote from Nat in one interview doesn't sway me nor does anything else said here so far.
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They're supposedly creating A combined registry, not combining THE registry. Set Registry gurus will surely still favor the PSA-only flavor so they can continue to pretend their sets are superior.
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I would love it were it to happen but I am not seeing this as something that is going to come to fruition. Nat's comment in the interview clearly indicate they are short of tech resources to even address PSA's set registry needs, whatever those might be. When you factor into that a poll showed only 22% of the people collect both PSA and SGC cards, this has to be a very low priority.
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Also, there is evidence that it is in the works already. At least on the back end. The first step in building that out would be to coordinate the pop reports to ensure that they are in alignment with respect to how they identify various cards & sets. And those changes are already under way at SGC. One example of a recent change made at SGC to align with the PSA pop report is the 1929 Churchman's Babe Ruth. Previously, SGC put Ruth's name on the flip. Now, they've aligned with PSA in removing his name and only putting "Baseball, USA Sports & Games" on it. It's safe to assume that this change was made to align the databases with respect to which cards count on the registry as official "Babe Ruth cards". The Churchman Ruth is not counted in his master PSA Registry set (even though the Shonen Ruth is lol).
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I have neither read nor heard anything from Nat or anyone at PSA or SGC about blending the brands into one registry. In fact, every statement I heard or read was how SGC would remain a separate company and Collectors would be providing resources to further enhance SGC's operations. In fact in mid April Nat spoke with Rovell and expressly stated a combined registry was not forthcoming. https://www.hobbynewsdaily.com/post/...ors-buying-sgc As far as the Churchman example goes, I hope your assumption is correct but I think that is merely for a universal checklist as the Rovell link above states would be coming in the near future. I am seeing more of an alignment, like your Churchman example, between SGC and PSA that would support a universal checklist. I suppose once there is a universal checklist then you have the basis of starting to blend a set registry but I remain skeptical this will happen.
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So if SGC cards as graded are equivalent for registry purposes, why wouldn't PSA also automatically cross them? If not, seems inconsistent.
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Expecting consistency now from the great TPG monolith seems a bit like wishful thinking given our collective experience to date.
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Grading standards have changed over time and each company at various times in their history has graded with different emphasis for the final grade. If we were to crack out almost any PSA 7 that was graded 10 years ago, my guess is that today PSA would not deem them 7s yet there are numerous sets that contain these older graded cards that carry the same weight as a card in the same grade that was graded today.
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I believe them when they say they have no plans to phase out SGC and that they want to continue to operate them as separate brands. It's what I would do. I think they will just continue to allow market demand to dictate pricing. It's the dial they use currently to increase or decrease submission demand.
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