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Old 08-29-2024, 04:06 PM
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Great point! I was wondering the same thing. The fuzzy cut edges are significant. I always thought sharp edges and corners were important for a 10.
If you can find just one single o-pee-chee psa 10 from 1978 to 1982 without a rough cut, that ones been doctored. Look up the pictures of every opc Gretzky 10.

This is the 10 that sold for 3.75 million in 2021.
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Old 08-29-2024, 04:26 PM
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If you can find just one single o-pee-chee psa 10 from 1978 to 1982 without a rough cut, that ones been doctored. Look up the pictures of every opc Gretzky 10.

This is the 10 that sold for 3.75 million in 2021.
After looking at a bunch of other graded 1961-62 Fleer Wilt Chamberlain cards, I get it now.

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Neither SGC nor PSA have any "smooth edge" criteria for Gem Mint cards. The cut is the cut...if it's not to your liking, that's your thing.


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Neither SGC nor PSA have any "smooth edge" criteria for Gem Mint cards. The cut is the cut...if it's not to your liking, that's your thing.


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I get that, I just don't understand the decision that one factory flaw is cool and the other is the kiss of death.
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I had an amazing Clemente card a few years ago that was a PSA 9. Thought it might cross over so sent to PSA. Got at 7. Great. Resent it to SGC. Got a 7.5.

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I get that, I just don't understand the decision that one factory flaw is cool and the other is the kiss of death.
It might feel arbitrary but I think there are collectors out there who prefer rough cuts (fuzzy cuts, as you refer to them) but not sure anyone prefers an off center card, though many will accept off centered cards.
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It might feel arbitrary but I think there are collectors out there who prefer rough cuts (fuzzy cuts, as you refer to them) but not sure anyone prefers an off center card, though many will accept off centered cards.
Oh it doesn't FEEL arbitrary...

I get it and don't get it all at the same time. To me if a factory flaw can affect the grade then all factory flaws should affect the grade and so if the highest graded OPC Gretzky rookie is only a NM 7 so be it.
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Oh it doesn't FEEL arbitrary...

I get it and don't get it all at the same time. To me if a factory flaw can affect the grade then all factory flaws should affect the grade and so if the highest graded OPC Gretzky rookie is only a NM 7 so be it.
Personally speaking I just do not see a factory rough cut as a flaw...to me it is closer to a variation but some might not agree. Print lines, poor registration, washed out color, print spots, centering or surface wear (snow) are things which detract from a card's appearance. I just do not view the rough cut as a distraction and unless the rough cut impacts the sharpness of the corners I do not feel it should adversely impact the grade.
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After looking at a bunch of other graded 1961-62 Fleer Wilt Chamberlain cards, I get it now.

Thanks for your post!
Not all Fleer are fuzzy cut. While obviously not a 10 (though we thought it would grade an 8) this was in our auction a couple years ago, along with what Travis acknowledged was the nicest centered West rookie he had ever seen.

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