First-ever SGC 10 Wilt Chamberlain Rookie Graded

[Republicaninmass]

Would it be a PSA 9 with the lower right corner? Guess so.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

I guess what I find amusing is a fuzzy cut supposedly doesn't lower the grade but centering does. Why should one factory flaw be acceptable and another not acceptable? The way some people feel about centering I feel, to a lesser degree, about fuzzy cuts. I really dislike them.

Also someone mentioned they like fuzzy cuts because it means the cards weren't trimmed. Unfortunately at least one doctor has become very good at mimicking fuzzy cut cards.

[SyrNy1960]

Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards

I guess what I find amusing is a fuzzy cut supposedly doesn't lower the grade but centering does. Why should one factory flaw be acceptable and another not acceptable? The way some people feel about centering I feel, to a lesser degree, about fuzzy cuts. I really dislike them.

Also someone mentioned they like fuzzy cuts because it means the cards weren't trimmed. Unfortunately at least one doctor has become very good at mimicking fuzzy cut cards.

Great point! I was wondering the same thing. The fuzzy cut edges are significant. I always thought sharp edges and corners were important for a 10.

[Republicaninmass]

Originally Posted by SyrNy1960

Great point! I was wondering the same thing. The fuzzy cut edges are significant. I always thought sharp edges and corners were important for a 10.

The bottom of the right corner is soft, along with the fuzzy cut on the edge

[SyrNy1960]

Originally Posted by Republicaninmass

The bottom of the right corner is soft, along with the fuzzy cut on the edge

I wouldn't want this card, considering what the price would end up being for it. Fuzzy edges left to right alone bug me for a 10. I wouldn't be satisfied with it. I want a perfect 10 if I'm paying big bucks. However, after looking at other graded cards, they all have the same fuzzy edges from that year. Guess that would be acceptable then as a 10. I still don’t like the look.

[JustinD]

Originally Posted by SyrNy1960

Great point! I was wondering the same thing. The fuzzy cut edges are significant. I always thought sharp edges and corners were important for a 10.

If you can find just one single o-pee-chee psa 10 from 1978 to 1982 without a rough cut, that ones been doctored. Look up the pictures of every opc Gretzky 10.

This is the 10 that sold for 3.75 million in 2021.

[SyrNy1960]

Originally Posted by JustinD

If you can find just one single o-pee-chee psa 10 from 1978 to 1982 without a rough cut, that ones been doctored. Look up the pictures of every opc Gretzky 10.

This is the 10 that sold for 3.75 million in 2021.

After looking at a bunch of other graded 1961-62 Fleer Wilt Chamberlain cards, I get it now.

Thanks for your post!

[CardPadre]

Neither SGC nor PSA have any "smooth edge" criteria for Gem Mint cards. The cut is the cut...if it's not to your liking, that's your thing.


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[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Originally Posted by CardPadre

Neither SGC nor PSA have any "smooth edge" criteria for Gem Mint cards. The cut is the cut...if it's not to your liking, that's your thing.


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I get that, I just don't understand the decision that one factory flaw is cool and the other is the kiss of death.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Originally Posted by SyrNy1960

After looking at a bunch of other graded 1961-62 Fleer Wilt Chamberlain cards, I get it now.

Thanks for your post!

Not all Fleer are fuzzy cut. While obviously not a 10 (though we thought it would grade an 8) this was in our auction a couple years ago, along with what Travis acknowledged was the nicest centered West rookie he had ever seen.

[perezfan]

Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards

I guess what I find amusing is a fuzzy cut supposedly doesn't lower the grade but centering does. Why should one factory flaw be acceptable and another not acceptable? The way some people feel about centering I feel, to a lesser degree, about fuzzy cuts. I really dislike them.

Also someone mentioned they like fuzzy cuts because it means the cards weren't trimmed. Unfortunately at least one doctor has become very good at mimicking fuzzy cut cards.

Agree with this. The fuzzy/rough cut is original to the card, and is not considered a flaw. So why do TPGs have the double-standard of downgrading for centering, but not for a rough cut? PSA also does not downgrade for poor registration/focus. All of these traits are completely original to the card.

To produce the rough cut, the cutting blades were not as sharp as new, due to prolonged usage. With off-centering, the cutting blades were not perfectly aligned and produced an off-center or diamond-cut card. So why punish the grade for one and not the other? It makes no sense.

If they simply graded the card based on its proximity to original condition, there would be no contradiction. People who prefer centered cards could simply use their own eyes to determine which ones they want to buy, and obviously there would still be a premium for well centered cards. Bottom line... their numerical grading scale is contradictory.

[G1911]

Originally Posted by perezfan

Bottom line... their numerical grading scale is contradictory.

It is not designed to make sense, it is designed to make cents.

[perezfan]

Originally Posted by G1911

It is not designed to make sense, it is designed to make cents.

[SyrNy1960]

Originally Posted by G1911

It is not designed to make sense, it is designed to make cents.

Good one! 👍🏻🤑

[raulus]

Originally Posted by G1911

It is not designed to make sense, it is designed to make cents.

Here I always figured it was designed to make scents.