1952 Topps Images of All Variations <Rolling Thread>

[BillyC_KY]

Irv,
PSA said “we will not be recognizing this as a gray back yellow Tiger. It was the yellow Tiger part of it that we did not feel comfortable with recognizing.” Selfishly I was hoping it would cross so I could sell it for decent money to help me finish my 52 Topps set for the second time. I am so glad I recently joined the Net54 site. Picking the brains of people like Zach, Irv, and Ted is priceless!! Thanks guys!!

[irv]

Originally Posted by BillyC_KY

Irv,
PSA said “we will not be recognizing this as a gray back yellow Tiger. It was the yellow Tiger part of it that we did not feel comfortable with recognizing.” Selfishly I was hoping it would cross so I could sell it for decent money to help me finish my 52 Topps set for the second time. I am so glad I recently joined the Net54 site. Picking the brains of people like Zach, Irv, and Ted is priceless!! Thanks guys!!

I wonder if it is all the red speckling on/near the lower left of the card that they feel uncomfortable about?
It also looks like, (possibly?) there is some red on the Tigers tongue?
Seems both companies, maybe more, have tightened up their grading criteria on what constitutes a true Yellow Tiger?
Some previous cards have definitely been graded with some red, and some significantly, on the Tigers tongue and elsewhere but I'd be really surprised if any in the last 6 months to a year have been?

And, you're welcome. I don't know as much as most on here so I'm glad to help out where I can.

[Zach Wheat]

Dale,

I had a House with partial red tongue "yellow" tiger recently (i.e. 12 months ago) graded by PSA. I guess it depends upon which grader gets the card.

[Republicaninmass]

Originally Posted by BillyC_KY

Irv,
PSA said “we will not be recognizing this as a gray back yellow Tiger. It was the yellow Tiger part of it that we did not feel comfortable with recognizing.” Selfishly I was hoping it would cross so I could sell it for decent money to help me finish my 52 Topps set for the second time. I am so glad I recently joined the Net54 site. Picking the brains of people like Zach, Irv, and Ted is priceless!! Thanks guys!!

Well that certainly Is curious. I was told I had the option of either, but not both. I did not save the email, but I did find this from nov 2023
"

Cert xxxxxxx is not the Yellow Tiger. We have tightened the acceptable parameters for the yellow tiger, which are different than those in the past, and the Tiger can't have any red or orange, including the tongue, so this is example does not fit our standards. "

Also, thanks for the kind words. However, I'm still not sure the difference between priceless and worthless

[irv]

Originally Posted by Zach Wheat

Dale,

I had a House with partial red tongue "yellow" tiger recently (i.e. 12 months ago) graded by PSA. I guess it depends upon which grader gets the card.

Or, you submitted it just under the new criteria as Ted has written below?

Originally Posted by Republicaninmass

Well that certainly Is curious. I was told I had the option of either, but not both. I did not save the email, but I did find this from nov 2023
"

Cert xxxxxxx is not the Yellow Tiger. We have tightened the acceptable parameters for the yellow tiger, which are different than those in the past, and the Tiger can't have any red or orange, including the tongue, so this is example does not fit our standards. "

Also, thanks for the kind words. However, I'm still not sure the difference between priceless and worthless

Thought that was the case.

[Zach Wheat]

Irv,

I thought PSA made a mistake upon the initial grade. It was originally labelled a cream back House red tiger. I resubmitted it and requested the yellow tiger designation be added - which they did. Under their new definitions, the designation probably should not have been added, as it has some red on the tongue.

[Republicaninmass]

Originally Posted by Zach Wheat

Irv,

I thought PSA made a mistake upon the initial grade. It was originally labelled a cream back House yellow tiger. I resubmitted it and requested the yellow tiger designation be added - which they did. Under their new definitions, the designation probably should not have been added, as it has some red on the tongue.

A scan of Mine actually went for "label correction" and they told me the info I'd posted.

[Zach Wheat]

Typo - should have said "....it was originally graded a House partial red tiger..."

Inconsistency is still one of the biggest issues. It also seems grading of card collectibles is trending more towards Pokemon and Magic cards and less on vintage, post-war cards

[Zach Wheat]

I also think that in the '50s Topps was not really a printer, but more of a bubble gum producer and card designer. I believe they farmed out most of their printing to different companies that used different card stock etc. I in the minority by far with this opinion though.

If you watch this video produced by Topps produced circa 1967, they do not show any printing presses, etc. but show stacked printed product, wrapper rolls and assembly operations. Their manufacturing is relegated to bubble gum

Topps Chewing Gum, Inc.: The Hidden Treasure "movie":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfvCFFBnWic