Best of health to Elroy Face.

Kevin · #1 08-27-2024, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by akleinb611

Regarding the Face-Clemente mutual non-admiration relationship, Face was not an outlier. Clemente is correctly honored for the noble circumstances of his death, but during his lifetime, he could be rather difficult, and he was not popular with many of his teammates, particularly his African-American teammates. Donn Clendenon was traded, and wound up with the 1969 Mets, specifically because he and Clemente loathed one another, and I believe even came to blows on more than one occasion.

Clemente complained to Dick Young, of all people, about my uncle robbing him of hits. Clemente seemed like a tough guy to like. The stories that Face told my father and I that weekend would certainly tarnish an image.

Vintagedeputy · #2 08-27-2024, 06:36 PM

Isn�t it funny how we as fans only get the perception that we get of ball players from the media or elsewhere? We never get the inside scoop. I had a conversation online with a young lady who was the former girlfriend of a major leaguer and she told me that Ken Griffey Jr. and Tony Gwynn were not the nicest and most honorable of men. We�ll just leave it at that. She actually also said that Randy Johnson was the nicest guy in the world.

JollyElm · #3 08-27-2024, 08:02 PM

I kinda always go back to the fact that it is nearly impossible to find a picture of Roberto Clemente with anything other than an intense, never smiling or joyous, look on his face. I guess he was just born with that type of personality?

whitehse · #4 08-27-2024, 08:56 PM

I worked in MLB for 7 years in the 80's and lets just say many of the players I looked up to as a kid shattered my illusions of them real fast. They are humans and could probably never live up to my 10 year old expectations but some of those guys really surprised me.

On the other hand, some of the guys I thought were turds were incredibly nice to me.

Peter_Spaeth · #5 08-27-2024, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by JollyElm

I kinda always go back to the fact that it is nearly impossible to find a picture of Roberto Clemente with anything other than an intense, never smiling or joyous, look on his face. I guess he was just born with that type of personality?

https://x.com/PuertoRicoPUR/status/1303704616786448384

https://x.com/BSmile/status/1511712355373228036

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