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Old 08-24-2024, 08:06 PM
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Getting back to the original premise, can the OP tell us a bit more about which Ohtani cards are undervalued, and why?

I suspect that for a lot of his issues, there is abundant supply. The exception being any with manufactured rarity.

So if there are 10 million of any given issue, what makes them undervalued?

i think just his base rookies, ungraded or PSA9 or below*

**I think there are ALOT OF SALTY people that dont want to believe someone is better than Ruth...... their letting the logic get in the way....

differnt eras yes, but Ruth basically stopped pitching pretty early, and to be fair wasnt facing the worlds best competition
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Old 08-24-2024, 08:30 PM
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i think just his base rookies, ungraded or PSA9 or below*
So what are his ungraded base rookies selling for these days? And what do you think they’re worth? Not being an Ohtani collector, I’m not familiar with the details here. I’m guessing that you think his PSA 10 rookies are not undervalued?

If you really think they’re undervalued, the obvious answer is to start buying and keep buying until you drive up the price to what you think they are worth.
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Old 08-24-2024, 09:25 PM
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So what are his ungraded base rookies selling for these days? And what do you think they’re worth? Not being an Ohtani collector, I’m not familiar with the details here. I’m guessing that you think his PSA 10 rookies are not undervalued?

If you really think they’re undervalued, the obvious answer is to start buying and keep buying until you drive up the price to what you think they are worth.
I would be very hesitant to buy anything Ohtani. The guy is objectively the best or second best player in baseball but will apparently have an odd amount of detractors.
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Old 08-26-2024, 07:59 AM
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I would be very hesitant to buy anything Ohtani. The guy is objectively the best or second best player in baseball but will apparently have an odd amount of detractors.
This is definitely an issue, I don’t understand it personally but it is an obvious situation. The guy could turn water to wine and a bunch would jump his case for something.

I think it has a lot to do with language barrier and him not being a common public figure out there and doing talk shows and such. The same was common with Miguel Cabrera in his prime. He really had little interest in learning English and he didn’t care to deal with the public off the field. Judge has bit of that “all-American kid” aura and like Jeter he will get fans just for that.
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Old 08-26-2024, 08:25 AM
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I've heard that argument made before but when I think of Jeter I mostly think of a stone. The guy didn't say a lot, didn't reveal a lot about himself, and wasn't really out there bringing attention to himself either.

Trout doesn't put himself out there either. I don't think it has anything to do with language. It's personality.
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Old 08-26-2024, 08:44 AM
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Agree Ohtani will be hard to beat as the best player in the 21st Century if he stays healthy as a hitter. If he doesn’t pitch there is no reason to think he stays at DH. He is a phenomenal athlete and could easily learn to play a position once he is allowed to throw again.

I think he pitches again. If he has say 5 more seasons as a pitcher and hitter and pitches like he did before - his value is so far above the next guy you simply cannot compare. We are witnessing an all-timer and really should enjoy it as long as we can. Unlikely we live to see another player like him.
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Old 08-26-2024, 08:49 AM
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Some crusty old heads who don’t want their guy’s unique place taken away. But if you are not making an effort to watch Ohtani play, you are missing out. He is elite at pitching and hitting, and there only been one other player with that ability in MLB history. He is not dabbling into pitching, it’s not a circus sideshow. He is the real deal from both sides. Enjoy it while it lasts, don’t miss out.
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