Ebay 1947 Bond Bread

[BigfootIsReal]

Jackie Portrait PSA 1 auction ended at $3,550. That outsold two previous 1's earlier this year for around $2,200. 3,550 seems kind of high

[Leon]

Haven't seen them but there's a wide variance in 1s..
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[BigfootIsReal]

This one had a couple big creases

[Snowman]

Ya, but it was better centered than most. This card is notoriously wildly OC.

An even better centered copy just did $4500 in a PSA 1 a couple months ago. And it had multiple creases as well.

I really don't get how this concept still doesn't seem to get through to people, but centered vintage cards are worth MUCH more than OC copies. Multiples more. At least 1.5x comps, and usually 2x to 3x comps for key vintage cards. And if they look undergraded in addition to being centered, cards can often go 4x or 5x comps.

[BigfootIsReal]

Originally Posted by Snowman

Ya, but it was better centered than most. This card is notoriously wildly OC.

An even better centered copy just did $4500 in a PSA 1 a couple months ago. And it had multiple creases as well.

I really don't get how this concept still doesn't seem to get through to people, but centered vintage cards are worth MUCH more than OC copies. Multiples more. At least 1.5x comps, and usually 2x to 3x comps for key vintage cards. And if they look undergraded in addition to being centered, cards can often go 4x or 5x comps.

Nice, subtle, dig. May a large horse piss all over your snow!

[BigfootIsReal]

Originally Posted by Snowman

Ya, but it was better centered than most. This card is notoriously wildly OC.

An even better centered copy just did $4500 in a PSA 1 a couple months ago. And it had multiple creases as well.

I really don't get how this concept still doesn't seem to get through to people, but centered vintage cards are worth MUCH more than OC copies. Multiples more. At least 1.5x comps, and usually 2x to 3x comps for key vintage cards. And if they look undergraded in addition to being centered, cards can often go 4x or 5x comps.

So, when it comes to the two most overused words in cards right now, "eye appeal", as long as the card is somewhat centered (even though it's centered due to trimming), it's ok for that said card to have enough creases to make it look like a road map? If you think the card we're speaking of has "eye appeal" with all the creases and off-white color, then dude, you need to lay off that hippie lettuce a little. I'm happy it went for so much since I have a much better one in a 5. On to more important things, Jerry Reed IS the only Snowman, period. Change your screen name!

[Snowman]

Originally Posted by BigfootIsReal

So, when it comes to the two most overused words in cards right now, "eye appeal", as long as the card is somewhat centered (even though it's centered due to trimming), it's ok for that said card to have enough creases to make it look like a road map? If you think the card we're speaking of has "eye appeal" with all the creases and off-white color, then dude, you need to lay off that hippie lettuce a little. I'm happy it went for so much since I have a much better one in a 5. On to more important things, Jerry Reed IS the only Snowman, period. Change your screen name!

"Eye appeal" is the most important term in the hobby, not the most overused. Until you figure that out, you'll continue to scratch your head at auction results into perpetuity.

Also, a low-end card with strong eye-appeal selling above comps has zero effect on the values of your off-centered cards in higher grades. Zero.

[Fuddjcal]

Originally Posted by BigfootIsReal

So, when it comes to the two most overused words in cards right now, "eye appeal", as long as the card is somewhat centered (even though it's centered due to trimming), it's ok for that said card to have enough creases to make it look like a road map? If you think the card we're speaking of has "eye appeal" with all the creases and off-white color, then dude, you need to lay off that hippie lettuce a little. I'm happy it went for so much since I have a much better one in a 5. On to more important things, Jerry Reed IS the only Snowman, period. Change your screen name!

Breaker Breaker good buddy! We're Eastbound & Down.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by BigfootIsReal

So, when it comes to the two most overused words in cards right now, "eye appeal", as long as the card is somewhat centered (even though it's centered due to trimming), it's ok for that said card to have enough creases to make it look like a road map? If you think the card we're speaking of has "eye appeal" with all the creases and off-white color, then dude, you need to lay off that hippie lettuce a little. I'm happy it went for so much since I have a much better one in a 5. On to more important things, Jerry Reed IS the only Snowman, period. Change your screen name!

"Elite centering." See you and raise you one.

[parkplace33]

Originally Posted by Snowman

Ya, but it was better centered than most. This card is notoriously wildly OC.

An even better centered copy just did $4500 in a PSA 1 a couple months ago. And it had multiple creases as well.

I really don't get how this concept still doesn't seem to get through to people, but centered vintage cards are worth MUCH more than OC copies. Multiples more. At least 1.5x comps, and usually 2x to 3x comps for key vintage cards. And if they look undergraded in addition to being centered, cards can often go 4x or 5x comps.

100 concur Snow. Guys want big cards, but with great eye appeal. They have the most upside.

[packs]

I paid $1,000 for my beater. Felt high at the time but I still think this card has it's due coming. I'm not interested in selling any time soon. In my opinion it is one of the most historically significant baseball cards ever released:

[darwinbulldog]

Originally Posted by parkplace33

100 concur Snow. Guys want big cards, but with great eye appeal. They have the most upside.

That doesn't make sense to me. Surely the cards that people do not want but will want in the future are the ones with the most upside.

[brunswickreeves]

Originally Posted by BigfootIsReal

Jackie Portrait PSA 1 auction ended at $3,550. That outsold two previous 1's earlier this year for around $2,200. 3,550 seems kind of high

I was watching that auction and think it was a very respectable version and for that price is a solid buy. Long term view it’s Jackie Robinson’s ‘true’ rookie card that was released in 1947. He broke the color barrier and transcends baseball. Happy for whoever got that one.

[GeoPoto]

I'm not privy to the card you are discussing, but here's mine, and my opinion is that a 1 that looks better than mine is worth more than $3.5K and a 1 that looks worse is worth less than $3.5K.

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[Snowman]

Originally Posted by GeoPoto

I'm not privy to the card you are discussing, but here's mine, and my opinion is that a 1 that looks better than mine is worth more than $3.5K and a 1 that looks worse is worth less than $3.5K.

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I'll give you $5k for that right now. Serious offer.

[Republicaninmass]

Originally Posted by Snowman

I'll give you $5k for that right now. Serious offer.

Have to sell some stocks or move money around first or that cash is available? Asking for a friend

[Snowman]

Originally Posted by Republicaninmass

Have to sell some stocks or move money around first or that cash is available? Asking for a friend

Don't be a dumbass Ted. Unlike your moral compass, I'm not broke.

[Republicaninmass]

Originally Posted by Snowman

Don't be a dumbass Ted. Unlike your moral compass, I'm not broke.

Oh thats rich, Projection at its finest!

The soaker, presser, stainer remover Sleeps well at night!

Maybe your therapist can help you overcome this, as well as your other broken parts

[CardPadre]

Back to the card in question…the “winner” has a bidding history that makes it seem like they likely just use that account to shill their own stuff on probstein. But can’t say for sure, of course.

[GeoPoto]

Ha, no I'm not trying to sell the card. Thanks for the offer. But it was won in one of your favorite auctions recently for $3.6K. (A friend picked it up for me!).

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[bcbgcbrcb]

Why no mention of the much more widely distributed Jackie card from the original 44 card Bond Bread set released earlier in 1947? Those were inserted into loafs of Bond Bread in 1947 the same way Old Judge cards were inserted into cigarette packs, Cracker Jack cards were inserted into snack boxes, American Caramel cards were inserted into candy packages, etc. The 13 card Jackie set were distributed as promotional giveaways, not nearly the same chase element involved in trying to obtain these back in the day.

[packs]

Originally Posted by bcbgcbrcb

Why no mention of the much more widely distributed Jackie card from the original 44 card Bond Bread set released earlier in 1947? Those were inserted into loafs of Bond Bread in 1947 the same way Old Judge cards were inserted into cigarette packs, Cracker Jack cards were inserted into snack boxes, American Caramel cards were inserted into candy packages, etc. The 13 card Jackie set were distributed as promotional giveaways, not nearly the same chase element involved in trying to obtain these back in the day.

The portrait card is separate from the rest of the Bond Bread Jackie set. It is it's own release. Where did you find information that the 44 card set was released was first? It's always been my understanding that the Jackie portrait was released first to promote Jackie Robinson specifically once he made the team.

[Carter08]

Where does the Jackie Robinson Well Made Pants fit into all of this?

[Snowman]

Originally Posted by bcbgcbrcb

Why no mention of the much more widely distributed Jackie card from the original 44 card Bond Bread set released earlier in 1947? Those were inserted into loafs of Bond Bread in 1947 the same way Old Judge cards were inserted into cigarette packs, Cracker Jack cards were inserted into snack boxes, American Caramel cards were inserted into candy packages, etc. The 13 card Jackie set were distributed as promotional giveaways, not nearly the same chase element involved in trying to obtain these back in the day.

Because those are blank backs with horrible cuts and much higher print runs. I don't even consider those to be baseball cards. To each their own though. Collect what you love.

[Exhibitman]

Originally Posted by Snowman

Because those are blank backs with horrible cuts and much higher print runs. I don't even consider those to be baseball cards. To each their own though. Collect what you love.

Yeah, those blank-backed B&W product insert 'cards'...ugh.

[Snowman]

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

Yeah, those blank-backed B&W product insert 'cards'...ugh.

Most collectors do not prefer them. To each their own. Someone asked why the other Jackie isn't more popular. I just gave my point of view.

[bcbgcbrcb]

https://www.oldcardboard.com/ref/roo...robinja02e.jpg

[bcbgcbrcb]

Here you go, James:

Originally Posted by bcbgcbrcb

https://www.oldcardboard.com/ref/roo...robinja02e.jpg

[4815162342]

It must be nice to collect cards that are so abundant that you can be picky about centering.