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Old 08-20-2024, 07:25 AM
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Ya, but it was better centered than most. This card is notoriously wildly OC.

An even better centered copy just did $4500 in a PSA 1 a couple months ago. And it had multiple creases as well.

I really don't get how this concept still doesn't seem to get through to people, but centered vintage cards are worth MUCH more than OC copies. Multiples more. At least 1.5x comps, and usually 2x to 3x comps for key vintage cards. And if they look undergraded in addition to being centered, cards can often go 4x or 5x comps.
So, when it comes to the two most overused words in cards right now, "eye appeal", as long as the card is somewhat centered (even though it's centered due to trimming), it's ok for that said card to have enough creases to make it look like a road map? If you think the card we're speaking of has "eye appeal" with all the creases and off-white color, then dude, you need to lay off that hippie lettuce a little. I'm happy it went for so much since I have a much better one in a 5. On to more important things, Jerry Reed IS the only Snowman, period. Change your screen name!

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So, when it comes to the two most overused words in cards right now, "eye appeal", as long as the card is somewhat centered (even though it's centered due to trimming), it's ok for that said card to have enough creases to make it look like a road map? If you think the card we're speaking of has "eye appeal" with all the creases and off-white color, then dude, you need to lay off that hippie lettuce a little. I'm happy it went for so much since I have a much better one in a 5. On to more important things, Jerry Reed IS the only Snowman, period. Change your screen name!
"Eye appeal" is the most important term in the hobby, not the most overused. Until you figure that out, you'll continue to scratch your head at auction results into perpetuity.

Also, a low-end card with strong eye-appeal selling above comps has zero effect on the values of your off-centered cards in higher grades. Zero.
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I always take my economic and political advice from Bigfoot advocates, as they seem to have a really strong grasp on discernible objective reality.
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I always take my economic and political advice from Bigfoot advocates, as they seem to have a really strong grasp on discernible objective reality.
Don’t knock Big Foot. Very agile guy for his size. In the last 30 years he has managed to evade every single one of the 345 million mobile phones in America with sophisticated color cameras.
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So, when it comes to the two most overused words in cards right now, "eye appeal", as long as the card is somewhat centered (even though it's centered due to trimming), it's ok for that said card to have enough creases to make it look like a road map? If you think the card we're speaking of has "eye appeal" with all the creases and off-white color, then dude, you need to lay off that hippie lettuce a little. I'm happy it went for so much since I have a much better one in a 5. On to more important things, Jerry Reed IS the only Snowman, period. Change your screen name!

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Jerry Reed = underrated
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IMO, this card is the key Robinson card, if you are considering rookie collecting, and anyone entering the hobby with aspirations of getting a Robinson rookie and who does his or her homework will end up looking at this card. The myth of the Leaf card has been debunked; the only reason people chase that one as a rookie (as opposed to as a great card from a great set) is an error made decades ago in identifying his rookie.

The round-cornered insert card is another underrated one, a poor man's version of a Robinson rookie. I am surely not the only one here who has a few stashed away?

Oh, and Jerry Reed was a talent: good writer, singer, and a pretty funny comedic actor. When you can hold your own with Jackie Gleason, you've gotta be pretty good.
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People banking some regional RC is going to explode higher?


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So, when it comes to the two most overused words in cards right now, "eye appeal", as long as the card is somewhat centered (even though it's centered due to trimming), it's ok for that said card to have enough creases to make it look like a road map? If you think the card we're speaking of has "eye appeal" with all the creases and off-white color, then dude, you need to lay off that hippie lettuce a little. I'm happy it went for so much since I have a much better one in a 5. On to more important things, Jerry Reed IS the only Snowman, period. Change your screen name!
"Elite centering." See you and raise you one.
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I think generally speaking people are always going to prefer a centered card to an off centered card. I'm not sure what the gripe is about a centered card having eye appeal in every case whether there are other flaws or not. It is a near universal truth in the hobby that a centered card is preferred.
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I think generally speaking people are always going to prefer a centered card to an off centered card. I'm not sure what the gripe is about a centered card having eye appeal in every case whether there are other flaws or not. It is a near universal truth in the hobby that a centered card is preferred.
Of course and that has always been true, but it's a relatively recent phenomenon that it has become such a fetish and that centered cards command such a huge premium.
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I think generally speaking people are always going to prefer a centered card to an off centered card. I'm not sure what the gripe is about a centered card having eye appeal in every case whether there are other flaws or not. It is a near universal truth in the hobby that a centered card is preferred.
As someone who ignores centering (as long as it's not terrible) and prefers a clean surface with nice color as a #1 priority, I've seen centering win out over creases and scuffs nearly all the time.

Being on the other side of one of the most popular aspects of the hobby really drives home how much people will pay for centering, especially when multiple examples are up for sale/auction at the same time.

It's not exactly news that centering is king, but I'm still kinda surprised how much surface damage people will ignore for centering. Some people won't even touch a card that's not mostly or totally centered. They don't even want to consider it unless it's extremely rare and even then they're looking to upgrade asap. There's a lot of them, too.
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As someone who ignores centering (as long as it's not terrible) and prefers a clean surface with nice color as a #1 priority, I've seen centering win out over creases and scuffs nearly all the time.

Being on the other side of one of the most popular aspects of the hobby really drives home how much people will pay for centering, especially when multiple examples are up for sale/auction at the same time.

It's not exactly news that centering is king, but I'm still kinda surprised how much surface damage people will ignore for centering. Some people won't even touch a card that's not mostly or totally centered. They don't even want to consider it unless it's extremely rare and even then they're looking to upgrade asap. There's a lot of them, too.
Exactly! As long as a card is centered people disregard the fact it's been doctored to get it centered, they overlook that it has more creases than Nancy Pelosis' face or that there is dog crap smeared on the front. But hey, the card MIGHT smell, but it's centered.

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Exactly! As long as a card is centered people disregard the fact it's been doctored to get it centered, they overlook that it has more creases than Nancy Pelosis' face or that there is dog crap smeared on the front. But hey, the card MIGHT smell, but it's centered.
You could post a card with 40 40 borders and as long as it was slabbed no one would notice and people would ooh and aah over it.
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You could post a card with 40 40 borders and as long as it was slabbed no one would notice and people would ooh and aah over it.
People like Brady Hill and Marshall Fogel? Those guys just can't get enough trimmed cards in their collections.
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