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Old 08-19-2024, 08:46 PM
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The Sid Smith Old Mill brown is exciting to see! Good luck buyers and sellers
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Old 08-20-2024, 09:10 AM
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The Sid Smith Old Mill brown is exciting to see! Good luck buyers and sellers
That card has an interesting History. I bought it from Johnny V - a longtime member and early pioneer and collector of t206 scraps and freaks. My understanding is that many years ago, it sat in a PSA flip, numerically graded as a straight southern leaguer old mill (shock PSA would screw up). Johnny (or maybe someone else) saw it was brown, bought it for relative pennies and then had SGC grade it properly.
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Old 08-20-2024, 09:53 AM
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Ryan, speaking of flips, did you or Memory Lane consider having your collection reslabbed to note the pedigree, i.e. "The Hotchkiss Collection." I would think that likely would have added to the bottom line.
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Old 08-20-2024, 10:11 AM
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No disrespect to Ryan intended, but come on.
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No disrespect to Ryan intended, but come on.
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Old 08-20-2024, 10:39 AM
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No disrespect to Ryan intended, but come on.
None taken, and I totally agree!

However, regarding reslabbing, at one point we did discuss having PSA re-slab my T206 set that was broken up in the last ML auction, since it was a retiring PSA registry set and one of only two registered, complete 524 sets ever. But we didnt do anything.
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That card has an interesting History. I bought it from Johnny V - a longtime member and early pioneer and collector of t206 scraps and freaks. My understanding is that many years ago, it sat in a PSA flip, numerically graded as a straight southern leaguer old mill (shock PSA would screw up). Johnny (or maybe someone else) saw it was brown, bought it for relative pennies and then had SGC grade it properly.
I think that's the Brown Old Mill Smith that Jerry won on eBay for $51.50 back in 2013

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I won the Brown Old Mill Sid Smith.

To answer some of the questions people had:

* I was almost 100% sure that the back of the card was brown.
* I was willing to take a chance even if I was wrong and set my max bid to several thousand dollars higher than the ending price.

I first noticed the card shortly after it was listed and was keeping an eye on it to look for any unusual bidding. This would be a clear indication that others had also spotted the card. The bidding appeared normal with only a few minutes left, but I was still very worried that someone else had seen the card and was waiting to put in a last minute snipe. To my utter amazement and shock I couldn’t believe that the ending price was only $51.50

I actually started to second guess myself because no one else bid up the card, but since the winning bid was so low it really didn’t matter at that point if I was wrong.

Needless to say I was a very happy camper after examining the card in person.

I still have no clue how others didn't spot this card. There are some extremely knowledgeable collectors that I know look for items such as this on eBay. How everyone else missed this card is still mind blowing to me.

A few people have inquired about whether the card was for sale and my answer was no. At this point I want to keep it in my collection.

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Old 08-20-2024, 08:33 PM
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I think that's the Brown Old Mill Smith that Jerry won on eBay for $51.50 back in 2013
That’s it!! Great recall.

Regarding the Rose Co Graham- a different one went on BST and it sold lightening fast. I missed out by a hair. But the owner had 2!! True story, I think there are only two and he had them both. I begged him to sell me his other one and after some thought, he staked his asking price and I said ok. I was lucky to get it. Honestly, it was a very hard item to consign; it’s one of the 7-10 items I kind of second guess consigning bc I will never be able to get another.
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That’s it!! Great recall.

Regarding the Rose Co Graham- a different one went on BST and it sold lightening fast. I missed out by a hair. But the owner had 2!! True story, I think there are only two and he had them both. I begged him to sell me his other one and after some thought, he staked his asking price and I said ok. I was lucky to get it. Honestly, it was a very hard item to consign; it’s one of the 7-10 items I kind of second guess consigning bc I will never be able to get another.
Great story Ryan, definitely a Sophie's Choice card.
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I remember this going up also, it was in the dead of winter when most baseball is hibernating and was astutely claimed in only 5 mins, amazing! The thread is very enjoyable to read:

https://www.net54baseball.com/showth...onlight+graham
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Never say never in this hobby. I have reacquired several pieces I sold before. And with about 95% of them, I paid more the 2nd time. But I still got them back.

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That’s it!! Great recall.

Regarding the Rose Co Graham- a different one went on BST and it sold lightening fast. I missed out by a hair. But the owner had 2!! True story, I think there are only two and he had them both. I begged him to sell me his other one and after some thought, he staked his asking price and I said ok. I was lucky to get it. Honestly, it was a very hard item to consign; it’s one of the 7-10 items I kind of second guess consigning bc I will never be able to get another.
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That’s it!! Great recall.

Regarding the Rose Co Graham- a different one went on BST and it sold lightening fast. I missed out by a hair. But the owner had 2!! True story, I think there are only two and he had them both. I begged him to sell me his other one and after some thought, he staked his asking price and I said ok. I was lucky to get it. Honestly, it was a very hard item to consign; it’s one of the 7-10 items I kind of second guess consigning bc I will never be able to get another.
The Graham postcard story reminds me of a similar situation on Ebay a couple of years ago, albeit at a lower lower level of scarcity. A seller suddenly offered four D310 Pacific Coast Biscuit Buck Weaver cards (and if I remember correctly no other D310 cards), which are fairly scarce, and kind of raised a red flag, but were obviously legit once I saw them. I had stopped following Ebay at the time, but a great N54'er alerted me and I was able to snag the lowest condition (as is my natural collector reflex) because who knows when I would be able to obtain one at such a reasonable price. Just goes to show, you never know when an opportunity will arise to get something tough you really desire, so keep the collecting flame burning Ryan.

And my Buck gives eternal thanks to Ed for helping Buck find his forever home.

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Brian, let's see your beautiful Buck.
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Brian, let's see your beautiful Buck.
Okay Val, your wish is my somewhat indirectly handled command! Post 11 on this fun pickup thread by Rhett (which reminds me why the seller only had D310 Weavers available on Ebay) shows the front and back of my Buck, and he still looks wondrous to me.

https://www.net54baseball.com/showth...ht=D310+weaver

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