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Old 08-15-2024, 04:03 PM
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Thank you all for your help with this. Special thanks go to Greg for his informative responses and quickly convincing me that my first guess of a fake was likely very wrong. Again it never even occurred to me that I could stumble on such a rare find in a simple eBay lot purchase. I can't believe a card like this that has been in circulation for 70 years was just sitting out there in a regular vintage auction. I did check eBay for other 1954 Bowman wrong backs and find about 6 other examples currently for sale. One of them even has the same yellow ink staining across the front that I see in my Larsen card. Wonder if they are from the same sheet?

Anyway, I will be sending the card to SGC next week for what I hope is confirmation that the card is authentic. In the condition it is in I can't imagine it will grade above a 2 at best, but just the validation it is real (or not) will be worth the price. Will keep this thread updated on the grading result when I get it back from SGC.
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Here's one from 1941:
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Old 08-16-2024, 05:47 AM
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Rotated print sheet is not the only way to get a wrong back situation, although it seems to be the most common. There are times where a print sheet was run through the front of one machine and then they accidentally swapped the sheets with a different print sheet back before noticing it. Sometimes this even happened across sports or print runs.
I remember that a set like 1989 Topps football had some nonsports wrong backs. One of the early Magic the Gathering TCG sets had another misprinted backs issue. https://www.eternalcentral.com/themi...-backed-cards/
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Sometimes this even happened across sports or print runs.
I remember that a set like 1989 Topps football had some nonsports wrong backs.

Also happened with 91 baseball and 90 football.
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Well I can't answer the question in the thread's title regarding 1954 Bowman, I can show at least one method how 1955 Bowman cards are "counterfeited"/altered...

I pulled this creation out of a recent lot purchase. Apparently, a previous owner of these cards felt the need to "fix" Bowman's error.
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Also happened with 91 baseball and 90 football.
That's the year I was thinking about.
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Hi all,

Here is the update! Sent the card off to SGC for grading and it's back on it's way to me as of today (love the fast SGC turnaround times-they received August 27th).

Card did grade a 3, which is actually higher than I expected. They do list it as an Andy Seminick #172 card, with no mention of Larsen on the label. Thought that a bit strange, since all the other examples posted here had the name of the player on the front of the card listed on the label. Pics of the graded card attached here. Don't yet have it in hand it's currently in the mail from SGC. Hopefully it makes it here safely.
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Here is the update! Sent the card off to SGC for grading and it's back on it's way to me as of today (love the fast SGC turnaround times-they received August 27th).

Card did grade a 3, which is actually higher than I expected. They do list it as an Andy Seminick #172 card, with no mention of Larsen on the label. Thought that a bit strange, since all the other examples posted here had the name of the player on the front of the card listed on the label. Pics of the graded card attached here. Don't yet have it in hand it's currently in the mail from SGC. Hopefully it makes it here safely.

I think they did not pay attention to what they were doing. But at least you got it slabbed.
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