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Old 08-02-2024, 06:45 PM
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Phil Gagliano is above Richie Allen somewhere over the two Slits, Gagliano is on a 4x row and Allen is on a 3x row. It is probable but not guaranteed that there is a combo of

Angels Rookie Stars (Schaal)
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R Allen

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Old 08-02-2024, 07:20 PM
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Ron Locke is to the left of Sammy Ellis and Gary Geiger is to the left of Ron Locke, so that makes a five card run of Geiger-Locke-Ellis-Piche-Rowe on a 4x row. First, Locke is to the left of Ellis through the lines on the Ellis cartoon that show up on miscut Locke cards. Second, Geiger is to the left of Locke because the Brave/Red Sox card to the left of Locke on the miscut has to be a 4x card and Geiger and Billy O'Dell are the only two still available and it can't be O'Dell because every one of his cards has a flaw of a piece of the E in PRINTED in the copyright line on the back missing, the E on the Locke miscut is complete so it has to be Geiger.
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Old 08-02-2024, 07:42 PM
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This one messes up my count of what I had as the 33 4x cards in the Series because I thought John Buzhardt was likely a 4x, but he is the only card that matches up to this Tracy Stallard miscut. That means at least one card I have as a 3x is actually a 4x, I also have Earl Battey and Cap Peterson as 4x cards but their quantities are in the questionable range. The Tracy Stallard-John Buzhardt combo is on one of the 3x rows.
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Old 08-03-2024, 06:39 AM
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I'm just about out of new combos until I find more, the card to the left of Ed Rakow is a 4x Brave/Red Sox card and Billy O'Dell is the only one left. All O'Dell cards have a design print flaw where the white bio box bulges out in the lower left area that matches the Rakow miscut. That makes a run of Stange-O'Dell-Rakow-Mele-Dodgers Rookie Stars in C7-C11 of a 4x row.
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Old 08-03-2024, 07:58 AM
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Here's an interesting one, the card to the right of Rowe is an Oriole/Astro, the Orioles and Astros are Rowe, Grote, Owens, Siebern, Nottebart, Orioles Rookie Stars, Stu Miller, and Nellie Fox. The only 4x cards out of those eight are Rowe, Owens, and Fox, it obviously can't be Rowe and Owens is a header card, so that means it has to be Fox. That makes a big run of Geiger-Locke-Ellis-Piche-Rowe-Fox-Cloninger-Angels Rookie Stars (Egan) on a 4x row. This would also eliminate Nellie Fox from being the seventh header card. ETA I have since figured out that cannot be Nellie Fox to the right of Ken Rowe so that eight card run cannot be correct.
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Old 08-03-2024, 11:20 AM
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These are in the oh-so-close category, 4x Frank Kostro has either Ken Harrelson, Cardinals Rookie Stars, or Phil Gagliano to his left, 4x Jim Owens has either the Yankees Team card, Ken Harrelson, or Phil Gagliano to his right, 4x Gene Stephens has either Phil Gagliano or Ken Harrelson to his right, 3x Ray Washburn has either Al Weis or Ron Perranoski to his right.
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Old 08-03-2024, 08:53 PM
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It is Ken Harrelson to the left of Frank Kostro on a 4x row.
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Here's an interesting one, the card to the right of Rowe is an Oriole/Astro, the Orioles and Astros are Rowe, Grote, Owens, Siebern, Nottebart, Orioles Rookie Stars, Stu Miller, and Nellie Fox. The only 4x cards out of those eight are Rowe, Owens, and Fox, it obviously can't be Rowe and Owens is a header card, so that means it has to be Fox. That makes a big run of Geiger-Locke-Ellis-Piche-Rowe-Fox-Cloninger-Angels Rookie Stars (Egan) on a 4x row. This would also eliminate Nellie Fox from being the seventh header card. ETA I have since figured out that cannot be Nellie Fox to the right of Ken Rowe so that eight card run cannot be correct.
I think it has to be either Grote or the O's Rookies, despite his low counts - hear me out.

All the other gray cards are either 1) on the left edge, 2) have a known card that ISN'T Rowe to their left, or 3) have pop counts even lower than Grote.

I just finished putting together a '65 set and both cards, but especially the the Orioles Rookies, command a lot of attention and a price higher than the player depicted would suggest. I think there is reason to believe that either, but again especially the O's Rookies, could be a high demand card to the point of making its pop counts seem lower than that of a typical 4x card.

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I think you’re right, even though Grote doesn’t have large quantities he could very well be a 4x, this is his first solo card and he was a very popular ‘69 Met. I don’t think the Orioles Rookie Stars card with Davey Johnson and Paul Blair is a 4x because it might be the lowest quantity card in the whole series.
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