1935 Chicle Nagurski-thoughts on this one?

[investinrookies]

Originally Posted by CardPadre

It's completely shitty PSA has no accountability for stuff like this. The previous owner tries to get it slabbed, get's shit on by PSA...then the card gets cracked and resubmitted and meets the requirements that were set by the previous owner in his submission. Really crappy for that guy, glad it worked out for you.




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Well to be fair to PSA after I gathered more information from the seller they didn’t sub it correctly like I said. You don’t sub a card for grading that’s already holdered, that’s a cross over not grading. They also didn’t notate to holder it or specify a min grade. The seller sent me the sub form so I know this is accurate. Also, PSA wrote in the min grade so appears they had to reach out to the seller on exactly what they wanted done. Again, after I did my research on this it’s yet another reason I decided to take my chances with it knowing it would at least get an altered holder at a minimum. Seller should have just resubbed it as raw like I did.


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[CardPadre]

Originally Posted by investinrookies

Well to be fair to PSA after I gathered more information from the seller they didn’t sub it correctly like I said. You don’t sub a card for grading that’s already holdered, that’s a cross over not grading. They also didn’t notate to holder it or specify a min grade. The seller sent me the sub form so I know this is accurate. Also, PSA wrote in the min grade so appears they had to reach out to the seller on exactly what they wanted done. Again, after I did my research on this it’s yet another reason I decided to take my chances with it knowing it would at least get an altered holder at a minimum. Seller should have just resubbed it as raw like I did.


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Yeah, I just thought they gave him a straight out “altered” result due to that cardsaver you showed. So however incorrectly he submitted it, if they didn’t just return it and kept his money, they sorted it out, evaluated the card and made a determination.

So I’m just saying if all the above is indeed the case…him going from “altered” to you as a “5.5” is sooooo much of a change of opinion to make without accountability.

[investinrookies]

Originally Posted by CardPadre

Yeah, I just thought they gave him a straight out “altered” result due to that cardsaver you showed. So however incorrectly he submitted it, if they didn’t just return it and kept his money, they sorted it out, evaluated the card and made a determination.

So I’m just saying if all the above is indeed the case…him going from “altered” to you as a “5.5” is sooooo much of a change of opinion to make without accountability.

Grading is a matter of opinion not accountability. It’s important to also sub correctly and remove any possible bias when submitting with regards to submitting in holders. I submitted a raw card and got the best professional opinion at the time of grading from the given grader. I don’t see anything wrong with any of this on either side.


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[CardPadre]

Originally Posted by investinrookies

Grading is a matter of opinion not accountability.


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It could be a matter of both, that’s all I’m really saying.

[JohnP0621]

Congratulations. You took the risk and it payed off.
Beautiful Card.

Best Regards
John P

[Peter_Spaeth]

Congratulations.

I am surprised ASA actually had a legit card in their holder.

[JustinD]

Have to add my congratulations as well. Happy I was wrong, lol.