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Old 07-11-2024, 01:34 PM
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It's getting a lot of local news air time. Last night one of the major channels did a whole segment on it. And this kind of stuff is on other local channels too..

https://www.fox4news.com/news/dallas...heft-trackdown
For those who questioned how seriously this was being taken by law enforcement, this was in the article:

"The Dallas FBI is assisting Allen Police with the investigation because it is considered a federal crime."
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Old 07-11-2024, 01:41 PM
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This is a moronic crime. The chances of the perps being caught has got to be very close if not 100%.
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Old 07-11-2024, 01:45 PM
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This is a moronic crime. The chances of the perps being caught has got to be very close if not 100%.
I agree! The video of the theft is amazing.
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I agree! The video of the theft is amazing.
It's both impressive and scary that our whole lives are being watched listened to and recorded now.
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Old 07-11-2024, 02:58 PM
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It's both impressive and scary that our whole lives are being watched listened to and recorded now.
In situations like this, I have no issues with it.
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It's both impressive and scary that our whole lives are being watched listened to and recorded now.
Personally, I don't care about the surveillance devices (license plate readers, video cameras, facial recognition). I look at it as a way for law enforcement to catch perps of crimes and hopefully put'em away.

All the tech is one reason I think these knuckleheads will be caught, then it'll be each of them rolling over on each other. All you can do is hope they get time and a cell mate named Bubba that likes guys...
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Personally, I don't care about the surveillance devices (license plate readers, video cameras, facial recognition). I look at it as a way for law enforcement to catch perps of crimes and hopefully put'em away.

All the tech is one reason I think these knuckleheads will be caught, then it'll be each of them rolling over on each other. All you can do is hope they get time and a cell mate named Bubba that likes guys...

Haha, why is it everybody wants to reward Bubba the Sexual Predator with more fresh meat, in cases like this?

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I've long held to the adage that, "there is no honor among thieves." These likely aren't the most loyal, or brightest cretins in the world. So, it would only take, say, a no restrictions / six figure enticement and a LE grant of total immunity to get just one of these perps to flip on his cohorts. Now, who among you, will be first to pony up? Sure, it would be nice to recover all the cards, but the primary goal has to be taking these dolts off the street, incarcerating them and away from future card shows. Crime doesn't, or shouldn't pay. But sometimes allowances need to be made to achieve higher objectives. With any luck, promulgating this offer in the media quite possibly could get all the perps to indiscreetly flip on each other.
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In insurance lingo, this was a theft rather than a robbery, where violence or threats violence are directed at the policyholder. The policy would be some type of all risk personal property floater, perhaps manuscript to fit Ash's needs, subject to normal policy exclusions, eg. war nuclear etc. It should respond and pay his claim less any deductible. But, as Steve pointed out, if the policy is endorsed by stating security must be on the floor during setup and breakdown, then there might be a problem.
You can bet that the insurer has top knot loss adjusters working with the police or alone to solve this tragedy.
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Top knot? Sounds like the name of a yacht lol.

And the policy likely would be a specific collectibles dealer policy, not some general loss policy, IMO.
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Top knot? Sounds like the name of a yacht lol.
Pretty sure this is a Jeremiah Johnson reference:

https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/dbfd289...2-1d0da6ff1c84
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Pretty sure this is a Jeremiah Johnson reference:

https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/dbfd289...2-1d0da6ff1c84
Yep, warning against being scalped, in the real sense, not in the sports ticket sense.
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Yep, warning against being scalped, in the real sense, not in the sports ticket sense.
Well, that's what happened to Ash.
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Old 07-12-2024, 12:24 PM
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Top knot? Sounds like the name of a yacht lol.

And the policy likely would be a specific collectibles dealer policy, not some general loss policy, IMO.
I wish I had a yacht named Top Knot.
You are right, the policy would be a specialized manuscript one rather than a run-of-the-mill property policy. I have forgotten the name of the group/agent that many here have used (Collectors Insurance?). I'm sure they have a special tailor-made policy for collectors and dealers.
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This is a moronic crime. The chances of the perps being caught has got to be very close if not 100%.
I agree I just hope it is sooner than later.
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