Massive theft at Dallas card show, Nearly 2 Million Dollars worth of cards stolen

[samosa4u]

Last week, I decided to ride my nice red CCM bike to the post office (to mail out some cards). When I got there, I leaned it against the store window and went inside. I had to use the washroom, but I made it quick. And I decided to come out of the washroom while I was rubbing soap on my hands, so I could keep my eye on my bike. In short, I took my eye off my bike for maybe 30 seconds (I made myself pee hard and fast!) Why? Because I didn't want someone to ride off with it. I was very, very careful.

So when I read about massive thefts like this, then I just ... don't ... get it ...

[jayshum]

Originally Posted by samosa4u

Last week, I decided to ride my nice red CCM bike to the post office (to mail out some cards). When I got there, I leaned it against the store window and went inside. I had to use the washroom, but I made it quick. And I decided to come out of the washroom while I was rubbing soap on my hands, so I could keep my eye on my bike. In short, I took my eye off my bike for maybe 30 seconds (I made myself pee hard and fast!) Why? Because I didn't want someone to ride off with it. I was very, very careful.

So when I read about massive thefts like this, then I just ... don't ... get it ...

If you had really been careful, you would have locked up the bike. It sounds like maybe you were more lucky than careful since you left it out in the open where anyone happening by could have taken it. The card theft occurred inside where there were a limited number of people who the dealer probably assumed were all supposed to be there. While it's easy to look at what happened and point out how they could have done things differently that might have avoided the theft, they didn't just leave the case out in the open with no one around.

[samosa4u]

Originally Posted by jayshum

If you had really been careful, you would have locked up the bike. It sounds like maybe you were more lucky than careful since you left it out in the open where anyone happening by could have taken it. The card theft occurred inside where there were a limited number of people who the dealer probably assumed were all supposed to be there. While it's easy to look at what happened and point out how they could have done things differently that might have avoided the theft, they didn't just leave the case out in the open with no one around.

You totally failed to see my point ...

[jayshum]

Originally Posted by samosa4u

You totally failed to see my point ...

Ok, maybe you should explain it then because after rereading your post several times, I still don't get what your hidden meaning is.

[samosa4u]

Originally Posted by jayshum

Ok, maybe you should explain it then because after rereading your post several times, I still don't get what your hidden meaning is.

Look at the steps that I took in order to protect my $300 bike. I leaned it against the window so that I could see it and I only had my eyes away from it for about 30 - 45 seconds while I was peeing. Even when I was washing my hands, I came out of the washroom so that 30 - 45 seconds didn't turn into 2 minutes. Yes, I was pretty careful.

Now, go take a look at the cards that got stolen. Those are life-changing cards. Why was there just one high school kid at the table? Where the heck was everybody else? Where was the owner? I would've had an army watching those cards.

[Seven]

Terrible all around. It's experiences like this that make me sick to my stomach. I've never purchased from Ashsh but I've spoke to him a couple of times. Hopefully the thieves are brought to justice.

[G1911]

Originally Posted by samosa4u

Look at the steps that I took in order to protect my $300 bike. I leaned it against the window so that I could see it and I only had my eyes away from it for about 30 - 45 seconds while I was peeing. Even when I was washing my hands, I came out of the washroom so that 30 - 45 seconds didn't turn into 2 minutes. Yes, I was pretty careful.

Now, go take a look at the cards that got stolen. Those are life-changing cards. Why was there just one high school kid at the table? Where the heck was everybody else? Where was the owner? I would've had an army watching those cards.

In your riveting story about how hard you piss, you also take your attention and eyes away from the unsecured item though.

[jayshum]

Originally Posted by samosa4u

Look at the steps that I took in order to protect my $300 bike. I leaned it against the window so that I could see it and I only had my eyes away from it for about 30 - 45 seconds while I was peeing. Even when I was washing my hands, I came out of the washroom so that 30 - 45 seconds didn't turn into 2 minutes. Yes, I was pretty careful.

Now, go take a look at the cards that got stolen. Those are life-changing cards. Why was there just one high school kid at the table? Where the heck was everybody else? Where was the owner? I would've had an army watching those cards.

I don't know, maybe locking the bike up would be more careful than leaving it completely unattended outside where anyone walking by could take it, but that's just my opinion. If you think you did enough, I hope that continues to be true for you in the future.

Like I said before, it's not like the dealer had no one at the table and the case was out in the open. It was under or behind his table and there were people in the area. Unfortunately, it looks like he was hit by a group that knew what they were doing and managed to distract the people there long enough to steal the case. That definitely took a lot more effort than it would have taken for someone to steal your bike.

[brunswickreeves]

For Net54ers who will be attending the National or other shows, be on the lookout for the stolen cards, which the IG account (@daysportscards) provided a link to including cert #s:bit.ly/3xQK65a

Per the recent IG account posting: if it says ‘archived’ it is something sold and NOT stolen. If it says draft, it’s stolen.

Also for those not on IG, here are images of the person who picked up and took the case (blue shirt) and the two others (white polo shirt with hat and white shirt with camo hat) who were distracting the table’s workers:

[samosa4u]

Originally Posted by jayshum

I don't know, maybe locking the bike up would be more careful than leaving it completely unattended outside where anyone walking by could take it, but that's just my opinion. If you think you did enough, I hope that continues to be true for you in the future.

Like I said before, it's not like the dealer had no one at the table and the case was out in the open. It was under or behind his table and there were people in the area. Unfortunately, it looks like he was hit by a group that knew what they were doing and managed to distract the people there long enough to steal the case. That definitely took a lot more effort than it would have taken for someone to steal your bike.

Yes, I felt I did enough considering the bike is only worth about $300. I could've probably left it there for an hour or even the whole day and it would've been fine. I don't live in Brooklyn.

To say that this dealer took better steps to protect his 2M dollar collection than I did with my $300 bike is ridiculous. If those had been my cards, I wouldn't even have taken my eyes away from them for one second. And if I had to for whatever reason, like I said, I would've had an army watching them and not just one HS kid.

Do I make a little more sense to you now??

[notfast]

Originally Posted by samosa4u

Last week, I decided to ride my nice red CCM bike to the post office (to mail out some cards). When I got there, I leaned it against the store window and went inside. I had to use the washroom, but I made it quick. And I decided to come out of the washroom while I was rubbing soap on my hands, so I could keep my eye on my bike. In short, I took my eye off my bike for maybe 30 seconds (I made myself pee hard and fast!) Why? Because I didn't want someone to ride off with it. I was very, very careful.

So when I read about massive thefts like this, then I just ... don't ... get it ...

Sounds like you have a criminal a window to steal your bike. Thankfully none were around at the time.

I just ... don't ... get it ... when bike locks exist.

[dio]

felt bad for the owner, hope he's able to recover the cards
But I just don't get it, how can he leave 2M worth of card alone? I wouldn't even take my eyes off it even it's 50k, probably handcuff the case too if it's 2M

[conor912]

Originally Posted by dio

probably handcuff the case too if it's 2M

My thoughts exactly. Hard to sympathize with sloppiness.

[samosa4u]

Originally Posted by dio

I wouldn't even take my eyes off it even it's 50k, probably handcuff the case too if it's 2M

Right on

[JollyElm]

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"Leave me and my bike alone!!"

[samosa4u]

[gregndodgers]

If I were Ash, I would not rely solely on the police to recover the cards. A systematic process can be used to find the cards. What would that process look like?

1. Notify every single card shop in the US that cards have been stolen and provide photos of them, particularly the 52 Mantles, the Shoeless Joe cards, etc. Ask that the card shop owners notify police if they discover a stolen card.
2. Do the same with every pawn shop.
3. Notify and monitor all the on line card markets (comc, pwcc, FB , eBay, Craig’s list, etc) monitor these markets rigorously.
4. Contact the organizers of all card shows. Provide photos of all stolen cards.
5. Contact all of the major grading companies. Maybe they can screen certain card submissions including the higher profile cards such as the 52 Mantles, the Shoeless Joe cards, etc.
6. Notify the media in all large metro areas. Ask that they do a story about the theft.

What other steps can be taken?

IMO, vintage cards, including many that were stolen from Ash, are not put up for sale that often. Card shop owners regularly tell me that collectors are holding onto their vintage, so they don’t see a lot of vintage coming into their stores. Hence, rigorous monitoring and communicating could be the key to recovering some, if not all, of these stolen cards.

[rdwyer]

Surprised how this doesn't make national news. These faces need to be everywhere.

[samosa4u]

Originally Posted by notfast

Sounds like you have a criminal a window to steal your bike. Thankfully none were around at the time.

I just ... don't ... get it ... when bike locks exist.

Nope, I just leaned it against the store window because it would allow me to see it pretty much the whole time I was inside, except for when I took a quick washroom break. I actually felt like I was being overcautious by doing everything I did (considering its low value and the great area the post office is located in). Anyhow, again, I just used it to make a point. Now could you guys please shut up about my bike?