Massive theft at Dallas card show, Nearly 2 Million Dollars worth of cards stolen

[sb1]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

If I travelled shows selling cards like this there would be a retired cop at my right hand. He would know zero about cards, would not be chatting with anyone, and would watch my stuff like a hawk. Never let cases, boxes, etc out of his sight. Sure it would be $200 well spent. Just the sign of him would be enough to send most bad guys in another direction. In NJ where I live you could even hire an active officer on his day off. My assistants would not be kids.

Those young men work his tables at every show and are very knowledgeable and responsible, they simply/unfortunately got worked by professionals..

I am sure having their packed items taken was the last thing on their mind, despite knowing to always be on the lookout for thieves during the show, when the card swappers and distracters normally try to take advantage of a busied employee.

As others have stated Ash is a great guy, well respected and trusted. You could leave your house keys or wallet with him and everything would be exactly as your left it. He certainly did not deserve this(nor does anyone), I think the thieves had likely scoped him out for some time and were aware of the lack of people in the booth and the absence of other people in the venue at this time of the shows as a rule and new that there would be opportunity.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by sb1

Those young men work his tables at every show and are very knowledgeable and responsible, they simply/unfortunately got worked by professionals..

I am sure having their packed items taken was the last thing on their mind, despite knowing to always be on the lookout for thieves during the show, when the card swappers and distracters normally try to take advantage of a busied employee.

As others have stated Ash is a great guy, well respected and trusted. You could leave your house keys or wallet with him and everything would be exactly as your left it. He certainly did not deserve this(nor does anyone), I think the thieves had likely scoped him out for some time and were aware of the lack of people in the booth and the absence of other people in the venue at this time of the shows as a rule and new that there would be opportunity.

All very true. I have spoken with Ash several times. He's a great guy, super nice dealer.
I agree with the comment about members talking about his prices too. They are marked high but he will deal on just about anything. This is not the time to talk about someone's selling skills. It's time to talk about who the perps are. A really nice guy got robbed.
And his son I usually talk with is one of the nicest young guys in the room too.
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[Kutcher55]

This has all the makings of a national news story. Brazen midday heist of 7-figures worth of collectables. I think some planning definitely went into this, but it remains to be seen just how "professional" these thieves are. Stealing the cards is one thing, but fencing them is a whole nother matter.

Unless they were wearing special facial disguises they will get made in very little time. Because of the size of the heist, police will take interest, as will of course the insurance company as I doubt these cards weren't insured.

There will be other video, outside the venue. It's possible we could have names really soon. I believe they will be apprehended in short order.

No knock on Ash who I have done deals with and is a complete gentleman, but you probably need to keep a closer eye on inventory of that value.

[StraightRaceCards]

Originally Posted by Leon

All very true. I have spoken with Ash several times. He's a great guy, super nice dealer.
I agree with the comment about members talking about his prices too. They are marked high but he will deal on just about anything. This is not the time to talk about someone's selling skills. It's time to talk about who the perps are. A really nice guy got robbed.
And his son I usually talk with is one of the nicest young guys in the room too.
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+1

I agree, I’ve talked to him a couple of times at the Dallas show and have had nothing but positive interactions with him.

Hate for the good guys in the hobby to be robbed, will be on the lookout for any of these unique cards

[JustinD]

Not purposefully trying to be judgy, however the thief sure fits the awkwardly dressed card show profile. I am betting he is a collector and someone likely knows this guy in the modern community.

If the other three are involved or he just took advantage of the situation of them for a distraction is up to the police to decide. However, they look like plenty of trade night attendees as well. I think someone will step forward and id someone.

I can't stand the guy, but it might be good to get this film into Geoff Wilson's hands and he may put it in a video. If they are modern collectors, he has the reach on youtube.

I saw this morning you have TikTok covered because Coach Koe already has a post. He has a huge reach on there.

[BillyCoxDodgers3B]

If there's any upside, it's that Ash is getting a lot of free positive character references and advertising.

[SyrNy1960]

Hate to see that this has happened again. Hope they are caught and all cards are recovered.

[Hankphenom]

That video is amazing, a virtual training film for cops, thieves, and dealers. Thank goodness the camera was on and working, I'm guessing they will catch these guys because of it. And how many dealers with similar inventories have such up to date photos of their cards for insurance purposes and lookouts for attempted fencing? Not many, I'll bet. So Ash seems well positioned for a positive ending to this story--I certainly hope so. But without wanting to blame the victim here, and with 20 years of doing shows in my past, it's inconceivable to me that anyone would place that suitcase on the floor and so close to an aisle and walk away without designating a helper to sit with it until it was time to fill the display cases. Yes, the young guys shouldn't have allowed themselves to get distracted so easily, but it's on the owner of that suitcase to assure its safety at all times.

[CardPadre]

Originally Posted by Leon

All very true. I have spoken with Ash several times. He's a great guy, super nice dealer.
I agree with the comment about members talking about his prices too. They are marked high but he will deal on just about anything. This is not the time to talk about someone's selling skills. It's time to talk about who the perps are. A really nice guy got robbed.
And his son I usually talk with is one of the nicest young guys in the room too.
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Get some perspective, it's not like someone was murdered for his cards. A bunch of stuff was stolen. Stuff. People will have whatever thoughts and observations they have about whatever is shown as part of the story...and they will share some of those on a discussion forum. The thought-police can turn in their badges and pat themselves on the back for a job well-attempted.

I feel really bad for the kids, I'm sure they feel terrible and don't really know how to process it all. Adults are adults, and have to deal with their own stuff and I'm sure he will. I certainly hope all the cards are returned and everyone appropriately punished.

People are inherently distractible no matter how vigilant they may try to be or may think they are being. This will probably lead to people rethinking how they secure cards at different stages of a show, so that's probably a good discussion to come of it all.




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[raulus]

What’s the penalty for this type of heist these days? 10-20 years?

[Exhibitman]

Originally Posted by raulus

What’s the penalty for this type of heist these days? 10-20 years?

Just sayin'...

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

Just sayin'...

The first 10 hits should have been to the head. Then they won't do it again!
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[chalupacollects]

Originally Posted by raulus

What’s the penalty for this type of heist these days? 10-20 years?

Depends… red city 10-20 years, blue city an appearance ticket and BK coupons…


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[Carter08]

Originally Posted by chalupacollects

Depends… red city 10-20 years, blue city an appearance ticket and BK coupons…


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Haha

[Exhibitman]

Originally Posted by chalupacollects

Depends… red city 10-20 years, blue city an appearance ticket and BK coupons…


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[Yoda]

As Scott said, there were no uniformed police in evidence during breakup which could open the venue to potential liability for failure to provide proper security throughout the whole show, including breakup, assuming a contractual obligation.

[BobbyStrawberry]

Originally Posted by chalupacollects

Depends… red city 10-20 years, blue city an appearance ticket and BK coupons…


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