O/T The concept of a non-sports "rookie card"

[BillyCoxDodgers3B]

Punk, New Wave and "Tompetty" are three very different things.

[Fuddjcal]

Originally Posted by BillyCoxDodgers3B

Punk, New Wave and "Tom Petty" are three very different things.

Isn't that funny. That's the Genre they tried to box him in at the beginning.

I think this 1977 Monte Gum Punk set also has "Kiss" rookie cards as well?

[Jay Wolt]

Was John Wayne in anything earlier then these arcade cards?

[Peter_Spaeth]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/39290646602...Bk9SR4LO8-qRZA

[Jay Wolt]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

https://www.ebay.com/itm/39290646602...Bk9SR4LO8-qRZA

Holy Cow! 1932

[Arazi4442]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

https://www.ebay.com/itm/39290646602...Bk9SR4LO8-qRZA

I know PSA isn’t always completely accurate but they have this one listed from 1930. Earliest one I know of.

[mantlefan]

Long before Disney revived his fame, Davy had a rookie back in 1910:





Earliest Lindy I can find is from a German set issued a year before his famous flight across the Atlantic:



The Boy General's rookie appeared just 12 years after his Last Stand:





Caesar's first card was in that same 1888 set:

[Peter_Spaeth]

Robin Williams.

[Shankweather]

Originally Posted by Arazi4442

I know PSA isn’t always completely accurate but they have this one listed from 1930. Earliest one I know of.

Very often when PSA says "1930" it's actually "1930s," as in they don't know exactly when.

[Spike]

I brought a half-dozen sealed packs of 1978 Donruss "Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band" to the 2024 National and challenged my friends to unwrap Steve Martin's first card (he has two in that set). Sam here found it straightaway.

[BillyCoxDodgers3B]

Originally Posted by Fuddjcal

Isn't that funny. That's the Genre they tried to box him in at the beginning.

I had never heard that. There's nothing more "American Rock & Roll" than Tom Petty. That's his category.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by BillyCoxDodgers3B

I had never heard that. There's nothing more "American Rock & Roll" than Tom Petty. That's his category.

https://www.thepettyarchives.com/arc...02-newwaverock

[BillyCoxDodgers3B]

Thanks for that. Interesting.

If he had just debuted a few years earlier, he wouldn't have had to put up with their need to pigeonhole him. He would have been right alongside Springsteen, obviously not as another "second coming of Dylan", but just in the unabashedly American R&R vibe of their compositions. Two different sounds, but the spirit is the same and both are quintessential R&R. That's it. Just plain ol' rock & roll. If more proof was ever needed by the industry that he was just a rock & roller, all they had to do was wait a couple of years to see how, of all the younger generation of musicians of the era, Petty seemed to be so quickly and warmly embraced by the old guard. Not normally so easy an accomplishment. The old guys dug him, on both sides of the pond.

(I write this not even from the vantage point of being a Petty fan.)

In that late 1970's era, I suppose an artist just wasn't allowed to be "rock & roll". Everybody had to have a label/category attached to them.

[obcbeatle]

Originally Posted by BillyCoxDodgers3B

Thanks for that. Interesting.

If he had just debuted a few years earlier, he wouldn't have had to put up with their need to pigeonhole him. He would have been right alongside Springsteen, obviously not as another "second coming of Dylan", but just in the unabashedly American R&R vibe of their compositions. Two different sounds, but the spirit is the same and both are quintessential R&R. That's it. Just plain ol' rock & roll. If more proof was ever needed by the industry that he was just a rock & roller, all they had to do was wait a couple of years to see how, of all the younger generation of musicians of the era, Petty seemed to be so quickly and warmly embraced by the old guard. Not normally so easy an accomplishment. The old guys dug him, on both sides of the pond.

(I write this not even from the vantage point of being a Petty fan.)

In that late 1970's era, I suppose an artist just wasn't allowed to be "rock & roll". Everybody had to have a label/category attached to them.

As a retired performing musician/guitarist...amongst other musicians, 1st and foremost, Tom Petty was a great song writer. There are truly very few song writers on the planet (ever) that can/could write great songs by themselves. The great songs are usually collaborative efforts. Most musicians are very jealous of the great song writers But they still love the music! I suppose though when it comes to music, beauty is in the ear of the beholder. So I digress I love this thread, great cards!!

[Fuddjcal]

Originally Posted by obcbeatle

As a retired performing musician/guitarist...amongst other musicians, 1st and foremost, Tom Petty was a great song writer. There are truly very few song writers on the planet (ever) that can/could write great songs by themselves. The great songs are usually collaborative efforts. Most musicians are very jealous of the great song writers But they still love the music! I suppose though when it comes to music, beauty is in the ear of the beholder. So I digress I love this thread, great cards!!

Me too. I love the cards on this thread And I especially love the articulate retrospects from the Net54ers. Much better than the "Stolen" threads.