Hey, pennant guys

[bocca001]

Wow, that seems like a strong price for the sweater, but I do wish they made those for more schools.

Rob- I had the same thing happen with retroclean on he Oilers pennant below. The areas that are now white started as an off-white color. Something about that layer reacted immediately with the retroclean can came off, leaving the more stable white paint below. It still looks ok. I kind of wish I had left it alone, but the blue cloth was very dirty/browned before I cleaned it.

[ooo-ribay]

Originally Posted by bocca001

Wow, that seems like a strong price for the sweater, but I do wish they made those for more schools.

Rob- I had the same thing happen with retroclean on he Oilers pennant below. The areas that are now white started as an off-white color. Something about that layer reacted immediately with the retroclean can came off, leaving the more stable white paint below. It still looks ok. I kind of wish I had left it alone, but the blue cloth was very dirty/browned before I cleaned it.

Have you seen other examples? Are you sure the “off-white” was meant to be that color?

[bocca001]

The layer that came off was almost like a top coat? Something akin to varnish? It was not just dirt.

[ser1979]

Recent pickup, little dirty so I'll probably give it a quick cleaning to help brighten the colors. Will look nice along the other tiger pennants I have with the "stalking tiger" graphic.

[perezfan]

Originally Posted by ser1979

Recent pickup, little dirty so I'll probably give it a quick cleaning to help brighten the colors. Will look nice along the other tiger pennants I have with the "stalking tiger" graphic.

Great Tigers pennants. All tough! Awesome grouping… congrats!

[perezfan]

Just a quick heads-up…

Just listed some nice Brooklyn pennants on the BST. Please feel free to check them out and thanks!

Mark

[thetahat]

Originally Posted by perezfan

Just a quick heads-up…

Just listed some nice Brooklyn pennants on the BST. Please feel free to check them out and thanks!

Mark

Great pennants you are offering, Mark. Never saw that gold Dodgers before. Very cool.

[thetahat]

Originally Posted by ser1979

Recent pickup, little dirty so I'll probably give it a quick cleaning to help brighten the colors. Will look nice along the other tiger pennants I have with the "stalking tiger" graphic.

Looks great in that red felt … nice acquisition!

[ooo-ribay]

Originally Posted by ser1979

Recent pickup, little dirty so I'll probably give it a quick cleaning to help brighten the colors. Will look nice along the other tiger pennants I have with the "stalking tiger" graphic.

Nice pennant. I'd probably display it right side up, but that's just me.

[661fish]

Originally Posted by bocca001

The layer that came off was almost like a top coat? Something akin to varnish? It was not just dirt.

Shellac perhaps?

[Domer05]

I found this interesting patent application filed by Ted Scarlett, of Imprint Art Co., a.k.a., IMPKO, concerning an invention to expedite the manufacture of pennants in 1959--a half century after Repco's John Clark Udall filed his first patent for the screen printing method:

See: https://ppubs.uspto.gov/dirsearch-pu...oadPdf/2888900

IMPKO wasn't known for making the highest quality pennants, but this idea concerning the manufacture of spines ("hems") and tassels ("ties") was interesting inasmuch as it saved time, labor, and provides further insight on how some pennants were made, like this one below, at the mid-century mark.

By the way ... how'd you like to visit Intercourse, PA??

[Fballguy]

Been to Intercourse as a kid. My parents were into road trips and when it wasn't Rapid City, SD to see Mount Rushmore (and every tourist trap along the way) or Yellowstone...Pennsylvania was a popular destination. Don't remember much about Intercourse other than being old enough to realize it was a weird name for a town...as I was typically buried in comic books and football cards in the backseat, which my mother plied me with like morphine to keep me from complaining on the road.

This is one of Impko's more popular creations...The Alien Brownie. You can still find these in the packaging.

Kyle...Did you find the blog article out there. If you google the name it comes right up. Here's an excerpt.

"IMPKO: SOME CHEEZY POP HISTORY by Art Chantry"" Not much is factually know about IMPKO, they began as a souvenir picture postcard company sometime just before the turn of the 20th century. Soon, they started to market 'pennants' - those little miniature flags that you get as souvenirs with tourist locations silk screened on them. That quickly switched over to cheezy 'sports' pennants. Basically any novelty item silk screened on paper was also produced by them: bumper stickers, signs, novelty 'plaks'. Water transfer decals (produced with a silkscreen process) were soon to follow. It was a small step to simply make the same images inside little square decals and sell them alongside the other souvenir paraphernalia. IMPKO itself had gone out of business in the 1970's (or thereabouts. nobody is sure). "

[ooo-ribay]

Cool info, Domer. It sometimes amazes me to discover what is "patented." This Giants pin has a patent number on the back for its very janky clasp mechanism.

[Brent G.]

I picked this up recently -- it's the most delicate piece of fabric I've ever seen. I asked an Indianapolis historian when it's from, and he thinks its the 1914 Federal League team.

[perezfan]

Originally Posted by Brent G.

I picked this up recently -- it's the most delicate piece of fabric I've ever seen. I asked an Indianapolis historian when it's from, and he thinks its the 1914 Federal League team.

Interesting...

This one (with identical Player graphic) has always been attributed to the 1930s-40s....

https://insidetheparkcollectibles.co...-LOT14004.aspx

So either the maker kept this graphic on file for a few decades, or the Mini Pennant is significantly more recent than the historian estimated. I would tend to believe it's the latter, but eager to hear what others think.

[Brent G.]

Originally Posted by perezfan

Interesting...

This one (with identical Player graphic) has always been attributed to the 1930s-40s....

https://insidetheparkcollectibles.co...-LOT14004.aspx

So either the maker kept this graphic on file for a few decades, or the Mini Pennant is significantly more recent than the historian estimated. I would tend to believe it's the latter, but eager to hear what others think.

Very interesting. I know the "Indianapolis Hoosiers" name was used for teams in 1884, 1887-89, and 1914. This is a 9-inch pennant. I'd love to know the real story, for sure.

[thetahat]

Originally Posted by bocca001

Wow, that seems like a strong price for the sweater, but I do wish they made those for more schools.

Rob- I had the same thing happen with retroclean on he Oilers pennant below. The areas that are now white started as an off-white color. Something about that layer reacted immediately with the retroclean can came off, leaving the more stable white paint below. It still looks ok. I kind of wish I had left it alone, but the blue cloth was very dirty/browned before I cleaned it.

So that’s a cloth Canteen pennant? Interesting … I thought they were all felt. That’s very cool. Oilers have some nice pennants.

[thetahat]

Got this recently. These cloth ASCO/Button House player pennants always intrigued me. I’d love to know if a checklist exists. This is smaller (14”) than the slightly more common ones (20”).

What’s weird is the airbrushed cap. He had only played with the Cubs, 1965 through 1971 before his trade to Oakland. What other cap could he be wearing? I can only think of a trademark/copyright issue with the team… the “Cub Power” cloth pennants seem to date to approx. 1969.

[Vintagedeputy]

Originally Posted by thetahat

Got this recently. These cloth ASCO/Button House player pennants always intrigued me. I’d love to know if a checklist exists. This is smaller (14”) than the slightly more common ones (20”).

What’s weird is the airbrushed cap. He had only played with the Cubs, 1965 through 1971 before his trade to Oakland. What other cap could he be wearing? I can only think of a trademark/copyright issue with the team… the “Cub Power” cloth pennants seem to date to approx. 1969.

I would agree about the trademark issue. Notice the team name just says Cub power, not Cubs power.

[ooo-ribay]

I wholeheartedly approve of anyone divesting themselves of d**gers crap!

[thetahat]

Originally Posted by Vintagedeputy

I would agree about the trademark issue. Notice the team name just says Cub power, not Cubs power.

That appears to be the case. This has 1969 MLBPA trademark but not MLB, in the back of the picture. Same with the large white Cub Power pennant pictured below. The red one which does not airbrush out the Cubs logo on the pics, has both MLBPA and MLB trademarks.

[UKCardGuy]

Originally Posted by thetahat

Got this recently. These cloth ASCO/Button House player pennants always intrigued me. I’d love to know if a checklist exists. This is smaller (14”) than the slightly more common ones (20”).

What’s weird is the airbrushed cap. He had only played with the Cubs, 1965 through 1971 before his trade to Oakland. What other cap could he be wearing? I can only think of a trademark/copyright issue with the team… the “Cub Power” cloth pennants seem to date to approx. 1969.

What's the chance that that Holtzman pennant is a fantasy piece? The fabric looks different to the other Cubs Power editions. This is the back of my My Ernie Banks Pennant from the series. It has the MLBPA logo but not the Copyright text above it. It also has the name and address of All Sports Company. (My full size Cubs Power pennant has exactly the same).

Besides all of that...what are the odds that anyone would produce a pennant for Ken Holtzman?

[thetahat]

No it’s legit, cloth, just smaller than typical. It has the MLBPA trademark and the copyright symbol under Cub Power. I’m guessing they had pennants for at least the top Cubs players, and Holtzman was a 17 game winner in 1969.

Let’s see the front of that sweet Ernie pennant!

[UKCardGuy]

Originally Posted by thetahat

No it’s legit, cloth, just smaller than typical. It has the MLBPA trademark and the copyright symbol under Cub Power. I’m guessing they had pennants for at least the top Cubs players, and Holtzman was a 17 game winner in 1969.

Let’s see the front of that sweet Ernie pennant!

Thanks. I'll add that Holtzman to my catalog. I wonder if they issued one for each of the other players in that 12 player photo?

Here's my Ernie Banks pennant and the 3 player full size version plus a 1960 ASG pennant that's a new arrival this week.

[ChiefBeef]

I picked up on a few pennants and am wondering if anybody can help identify the year of these two pennants.

The first is a Cardinals. Found similar but not the same. Believe it is a 1960"s era.


The second is a hockey pennant. Toronto Maple Leafs. Believe it is of 1960"s era also. Anybody know about hockey pennants?