Hey, pennant guys

[ooo-ribay]

First of all...thanks to Greg for trading this to Marc and to Marc for then trading it to me. Been after this one for awhile. I've seen the A's, Padres, Astros and many Phillies with the orbiting ball(s)...did they do these for other teams?

[ooo-ribay]

And now this guy...as they says about Cher, "she's had some work done." And as the Grateful Dead say, "what a long strange trip it's been."

As part of the above trade with Marc, I traded him my better example (with tassels intact) of this pennant. The one one I got from Marc was pretty dirty. Marc cautioned me about trying to clean it, but I'm an idiot. I first just put it in soapy water. It maybe cleansed up a little. Unable to leave well enough alone, I broke out the OxyClean. I figured "just a little Oxy; just a little soak." Within 30 seconds, the black just started dissolving off of it. The water looked like when you drop a paintbrush full of black acrylic paint into a glass of water. I wish I had a picture, but I was in panic mode. I drained the water and started quickly dousing it with clear water. Amazingly, the black stains washed off...and the body was significantly whiter. It didn't look too bad. I put it on a towel to dry overnight.

This morning I checked it and all the black had turned to gray. All the black you now see? Sharpie! I know, I know...major pennant foul. But I'm happy with it and happy with the trade I made with Marc. Have I learned my lesson? Perhaps.

[vintagesportscollector]

Thought I would share this listing, since it has now ended. Sold for $1,225. It’s not mine, nor did I win or even bid on it, but it’s the first time I’ve seen a Chipenco or Collegiate Ames design on a clothing item from that period, as opposed to felt. It’s actually very similar, but has even greater detail, than the Cornell bear design on felt products from that period, so I’m not even certain it’s Chipenco/Colleagiate. In researching I do see there was a “Sportswear by Collegiate, Ames” product line. Strong price, but the bidders appear to be clothing collectors, not Cornelliana or even college memorabilia collectors. There were 57 people watching this auction. I guess the vintage clothing market is truly bursting at the seams!

https://www.ebay.com/itm/355814180441

[bocca001]

Wow, that seems like a strong price for the sweater, but I do wish they made those for more schools.

Rob- I had the same thing happen with retroclean on he Oilers pennant below. The areas that are now white started as an off-white color. Something about that layer reacted immediately with the retroclean can came off, leaving the more stable white paint below. It still looks ok. I kind of wish I had left it alone, but the blue cloth was very dirty/browned before I cleaned it.

[ooo-ribay]

Originally Posted by bocca001

Wow, that seems like a strong price for the sweater, but I do wish they made those for more schools.

Rob- I had the same thing happen with retroclean on he Oilers pennant below. The areas that are now white started as an off-white color. Something about that layer reacted immediately with the retroclean can came off, leaving the more stable white paint below. It still looks ok. I kind of wish I had left it alone, but the blue cloth was very dirty/browned before I cleaned it.

Have you seen other examples? Are you sure the “off-white” was meant to be that color?

[bocca001]

The layer that came off was almost like a top coat? Something akin to varnish? It was not just dirt.

[ser1979]

Recent pickup, little dirty so I'll probably give it a quick cleaning to help brighten the colors. Will look nice along the other tiger pennants I have with the "stalking tiger" graphic.

[661fish]

Originally Posted by bocca001

The layer that came off was almost like a top coat? Something akin to varnish? It was not just dirt.

Shellac perhaps?

[Domer05]

I found this interesting patent application filed by Ted Scarlett, of Imprint Art Co., a.k.a., IMPKO, concerning an invention to expedite the manufacture of pennants in 1959--a half century after Repco's John Clark Udall filed his first patent for the screen printing method:

See: https://ppubs.uspto.gov/dirsearch-pu...oadPdf/2888900

IMPKO wasn't known for making the highest quality pennants, but this idea concerning the manufacture of spines ("hems") and tassels ("ties") was interesting inasmuch as it saved time, labor, and provides further insight on how some pennants were made, like this one below, at the mid-century mark.

By the way ... how'd you like to visit Intercourse, PA??

[Fballguy]

Been to Intercourse as a kid. My parents were into road trips and when it wasn't Rapid City, SD to see Mount Rushmore (and every tourist trap along the way) or Yellowstone...Pennsylvania was a popular destination. Don't remember much about Intercourse other than being old enough to realize it was a weird name for a town...as I was typically buried in comic books and football cards in the backseat, which my mother plied me with like morphine to keep me from complaining on the road.

This is one of Impko's more popular creations...The Alien Brownie. You can still find these in the packaging.

Kyle...Did you find the blog article out there. If you google the name it comes right up. Here's an excerpt.

"IMPKO: SOME CHEEZY POP HISTORY by Art Chantry"" Not much is factually know about IMPKO, they began as a souvenir picture postcard company sometime just before the turn of the 20th century. Soon, they started to market 'pennants' - those little miniature flags that you get as souvenirs with tourist locations silk screened on them. That quickly switched over to cheezy 'sports' pennants. Basically any novelty item silk screened on paper was also produced by them: bumper stickers, signs, novelty 'plaks'. Water transfer decals (produced with a silkscreen process) were soon to follow. It was a small step to simply make the same images inside little square decals and sell them alongside the other souvenir paraphernalia. IMPKO itself had gone out of business in the 1970's (or thereabouts. nobody is sure). "

[ooo-ribay]

Cool info, Domer. It sometimes amazes me to discover what is "patented." This Giants pin has a patent number on the back for its very janky clasp mechanism.

[thetahat]

Originally Posted by bocca001

Wow, that seems like a strong price for the sweater, but I do wish they made those for more schools.

Rob- I had the same thing happen with retroclean on he Oilers pennant below. The areas that are now white started as an off-white color. Something about that layer reacted immediately with the retroclean can came off, leaving the more stable white paint below. It still looks ok. I kind of wish I had left it alone, but the blue cloth was very dirty/browned before I cleaned it.

So that’s a cloth Canteen pennant? Interesting … I thought they were all felt. That’s very cool. Oilers have some nice pennants.

[thetahat]

Got this recently. These cloth ASCO/Button House player pennants always intrigued me. I’d love to know if a checklist exists. This is smaller (14”) than the slightly more common ones (20”).

What’s weird is the airbrushed cap. He had only played with the Cubs, 1965 through 1971 before his trade to Oakland. What other cap could he be wearing? I can only think of a trademark/copyright issue with the team… the “Cub Power” cloth pennants seem to date to approx. 1969.

[Vintagedeputy]

Originally Posted by thetahat

Got this recently. These cloth ASCO/Button House player pennants always intrigued me. I’d love to know if a checklist exists. This is smaller (14”) than the slightly more common ones (20”).

What’s weird is the airbrushed cap. He had only played with the Cubs, 1965 through 1971 before his trade to Oakland. What other cap could he be wearing? I can only think of a trademark/copyright issue with the team… the “Cub Power” cloth pennants seem to date to approx. 1969.

I would agree about the trademark issue. Notice the team name just says Cub power, not Cubs power.

[UKCardGuy]

Originally Posted by thetahat

Got this recently. These cloth ASCO/Button House player pennants always intrigued me. I’d love to know if a checklist exists. This is smaller (14”) than the slightly more common ones (20”).

What’s weird is the airbrushed cap. He had only played with the Cubs, 1965 through 1971 before his trade to Oakland. What other cap could he be wearing? I can only think of a trademark/copyright issue with the team… the “Cub Power” cloth pennants seem to date to approx. 1969.

What's the chance that that Holtzman pennant is a fantasy piece? The fabric looks different to the other Cubs Power editions. This is the back of my My Ernie Banks Pennant from the series. It has the MLBPA logo but not the Copyright text above it. It also has the name and address of All Sports Company. (My full size Cubs Power pennant has exactly the same).

Besides all of that...what are the odds that anyone would produce a pennant for Ken Holtzman?

[ooo-ribay]

^^^ Crazy. Not even a good size.

Edit: the sweatshirt.