PSA - Grader Notes

[TiffanyCards]

This should just be the beginning. When they rolled out images of cards, they also rolled it out slow before making it automatically included for all cards.

My hope is that the notes will be better detailed. That way when images are compared that show the card to be altered, there will be notes that support the images. This should eliminate those that continue to excuse these visible before/after changes as scanner settings, image cherry picking, or even image photoshopping.


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[Johnny630]

I would venture to say a good bit of AI (augmented grading) is being used by PSA during this process. So cool :-)

[Snowman]

Originally Posted by Johnny630

I would venture to say a good bit of AI (augmented grading) is being used by PSA during this process. So cool :-)

I can assure you they are not.

[Snowman]

Originally Posted by TiffanyCards

This should just be the beginning. When they rolled out images of cards, they also rolled it out slow before making it automatically included for all cards.

My hope is that the notes will be better detailed. That way when images are compared that show the card to be altered, there will be notes that support the images. This should eliminate those that continue to excuse these visible before/after changes as scanner settings, image cherry picking, or even image photoshopping.


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The reason you get criticized for posting comparisons of cards using drastically different scanner settings and pretend like those images are reflective of some sort of imaginary "work" that was done to the cards is because you literally do exactly that. Graders notes aren't going to help you.

Serious question for you though... Do you even own a single vintage card?

[TiffanyCards]

Originally Posted by Snowman

The reason you get criticized for posting comparisons of cards using drastically different scanner settings and pretend like those images are reflective of some sort of imaginary "work" that was done to the cards is because you literally do exactly that. Graders notes aren't going to help you.

Serious question for you though... Do you even own a single vintage card?

It would be interesting to be able to see the grader notes on this card. The images clearly show a stain on the top right in the before and there does not appear to be a stain on the after photo. Please note that the after photo was adjust by you to match the settings of the before and posted in a previous thread. Where did the stain go?? Either the stain never existed or it magically disappeared. If we had the graders notes, then we would have written evidence to support the visual evidence.

I’m surprised that PSA and others will use photo matching to authenticate items since, as you claim, photo matching is “reflective of some sort of imaginary work.” I’m also curious as to why PSA would develop photo matching technology, like Genamint, to help track and detect altered cards. It was also interesting that PSA deactivated Kurt’s Card Care submission after being presented with before and after photos.

It seems evident to me that using before and after images is a valid and reliable way to detect and determine if an alteration has been made on a card.

Yes, I own vintage cards.

I’m not here to argue or upset you. Therefore, this will be my only response to you on this thread. Take care.



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[Snowman]

Originally Posted by TiffanyCards

It would be interesting to be able to see the grader notes on this card. The images clearly show a stain on the top right in the before and there does not appear to be a stain on the after photo. Please note that the after photo was adjust by you to match the settings of the before and posted in a previous thread. Where did the stain go?? Either the stain never existed or it magically disappeared. If we had the graders notes, then we would have written evidence to support the visual evidence.

I’m surprised that PSA and others will use photo matching to authenticate items since, as you claim, photo matching is “reflective of some sort of imaginary work.” I’m also curious as to why PSA would develop photo matching technology, like Genamint, to help track and detect altered cards. It was also interesting that PSA deactivated Kurt’s Card Care submission after being presented with before and after photos.

It seems evident to me that using before and after images is a valid and reliable way to detect and determine if an alteration has been made on a card.

Yes, I own vintage cards.

I’m not here to argue or upset you. Therefore, this will be my only response to you on this thread. Take care.

Every opportunity you can get to post your bullshit in any thread you think PSA will read LOL. Never give up on your dreams! One day, they will care about you.

Perhaps worth noting (you clearly seem to have overlooked it) is the fact that despite PSA making an effort to clarify their "no grade/alterations" definitions, at no point anywhere in those definitions will you find anything at all about a card being soaked in water as being "altered". Why do you think that is? Oh, ya, BECAUSE IT'S A COMPLETELY STANDARD PRACTICE IN THIS HOBBY AND HAS BEEN FOR 100 YEARS. THEY ALLOW IT. Keep crying about it though.

[Leon]

Everyone has a right to their opinion. Try to remain calm.

If it's only water that is the cleaning solution, then, no the card shouldn't be graded only as AUT, assuming no other issues. Everyone knows that has been allowed forever. (by most hobbyists)

Originally Posted by Snowman

Every opportunity you can get to post your bullshit in any thread you think PSA will read LOL. Never give up on your dreams! One day, they will care about you.

Perhaps worth noting (you clearly seem to have overlooked it) is the fact that despite PSA making an effort to clarify their "no grade/alterations" definitions, at no point anywhere in those definitions will you find anything at all about a card being soaked in water as being "altered". Why do you think that is? Oh, ya, BECAUSE IT'S A COMPLETELY STANDARD PRACTICE IN THIS HOBBY AND HAS BEEN FOR 100 YEARS. THEY ALLOW IT. Keep crying about it though.