Poll - Greatest Living Player

Peter_Spaeth · #1 06-23-2024, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by G1911

There is more evidence that David Ortiz used steroids than there is that Roger Clemens used steroids.

Yes but Clemens was a jerk who left town and maybe even mailed it in a bit before he did, while Ortiz was beloved. A tale of two Red Sox.

samosa4u · #2 06-23-2024, 10:57 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwj6Pc2FfCQ

G1911 · #3 06-23-2024, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Yes but Clemens was a jerk who left town and maybe even mailed it in a bit before he did, while Ortiz was beloved. A tale of two Red Sox.

Oops, silly me, trying to use facts and a consistent standard again.

SyrNy1960 · #4 06-24-2024, 05:20 AM

If you were cheating on your wife, and she accused you of cheating on her without any evidence, would you admit it? No! If you stole money from your employer, and they accused you of stealing without any evidence, would you admit it? No! Without any proof or solid evidence, most will deny it. It's human nature. Heck, some will still deny it when presented with solid evidence.

Most will agree that OJ did it. Why is that? No proof or solid evidence. Is it because he wasn't liked? No. Most were able to use common sense to put together, based on what information was or was not provided, to conclude that he was (most likely) guilty. There are many people found guilty, without a smoking gun.

Like everyone else in this forum, I wish the steroid era never happened. I often think about what numbers Arod, Bonds, McGwire, Sosa, Palmeiro, Ramirez, and many others would have ended up with, without steroids. Again, we will never know, but only God Knows

The only player in the HOF from the steroid era that bothers me the most is Pudge Rodriguez.

1. Jose Canseco wrote in his book that he personally injected Pudge with steroids.

2. Jose Canseco and Pudge Rodriguez played for the Texas Rangers from 1992-1994.

3. When asked if he was on the list of 103, Rodriguez responded “Only God knows."

4. He played for the Texas Rangers in the 1990s.

5. His physique varied fairly radically over the years, with it being beefier pre-testing and noticeably smaller once testing was implemented.

The Anti-Drug Abuse Act of 1988 criminalized the use and distribution of anabolic steroids. Steroids finally made it to baseball's banned substance list in 1991, however testing for major league players did not begin until the 2003 season.

https://metsdaddy.com/2016/12/why-i-...van-rodriguez/

Just one mans opinion.

View Poll Results: Who is the greatest living player today?
Ronald Acuna Jr	1	0.24%
Johnny Bench	16	3.85%
Mookie Betts	0	0%
Barry Bonds	116	27.88%
Steve Carlton	0	0%
Roger Clemens	2	0.48%
Ken Griifey Jr	38	9.13%
Rickey Henderson	27	6.49%
Randy Johnson	3	0.72%
Sandy Koufax	52	12.50%
Greg Maddux	7	1.68%
Pedro Martinez	5	1.20%
Shohei Ohtani	18	4.33%
Albert Pujols	16	3.85%
Cal Ripken Jr	5	1.20%
Alex Rodriguez	0	0%
Pete Rose	39	9.38%
Nolan Ryan	34	8.17%
Mike Schmidt	17	4.09%
Ichiro Suzuki	7	1.68%
Mike Trout	1	0.24%
Other	12	2.88%
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