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View Poll Results: Who is the greatest living player today?
Ronald Acuna Jr 1 0.24%
Johnny Bench 16 3.86%
Mookie Betts 0 0%
Barry Bonds 116 28.02%
Steve Carlton 0 0%
Roger Clemens 2 0.48%
Ken Griifey Jr 37 8.94%
Rickey Henderson 27 6.52%
Randy Johnson 2 0.48%
Sandy Koufax 52 12.56%
Greg Maddux 7 1.69%
Pedro Martinez 5 1.21%
Shohei Ohtani 18 4.35%
Albert Pujols 16 3.86%
Cal Ripken Jr 5 1.21%
Alex Rodriguez 0 0%
Pete Rose 39 9.42%
Nolan Ryan 34 8.21%
Mike Schmidt 17 4.11%
Ichiro Suzuki 7 1.69%
Mike Trout 1 0.24%
Other 12 2.90%
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You would rank Aaron Judge over, for example, Pujols and Griffey?
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You would rank Aaron Judge over, for example, Pujols and Griffey?
Yes. He still has a lot of time to play, but right now I think he is the best living player and when his career is over, he will be much better that Pujols or Griffey.



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Aaron Judge is 32 years old - he has a total of two seasons with more than 100 RBIs . Albert Pujols had 10 seasons with more than 100 RBIs by the time he was 30 .
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So he had more RBIs before he was 30.

As a player of the game, leadership on his team, and overall effect on the games he is playing in, he is better than Pujols. Yes.



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So he had more RBIs before he was 30.

As a player of the game, leadership on his team, and overall effect on the games he is playing in, he is better than Pujols. Yes.



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He was a huge leader on the Cardinals , won a couple World Series .
You might want to look him up .
It’s Albert Pujols I think you might be confusing him with someone else
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He was a huge leader on the Cardinals , won a couple World Series .
You might want to look him up .
It’s Albert Pujols I think you might be confusing him with someone else
Judge’s best season and possibly his two best season are better than Pujol’s best and possibly second best. Koufax supporters use that type of argument so Judge supporters can too methinks.
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There's nothing not to like about Judge but given his age I don't see him ending up in the all time great discussion. He doesn't even have 1000 hits at age 32. Still, some mega seasons to be sure.
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Judge’s best season and possibly his two best season are better than Pujol’s best and possibly second best. Koufax supporters use that type of argument so Judge supporters can too methinks.
Part of the Koufax mystique is the "might have been" let's imagine a healthy 32 year old Koufax in 1968. Gibson was actually a year older than Koufax which seems weird. Think about picking up a 1975 Topps Sandy Koufax card. It almost gives me goosebumps.

When a guy has 5 seasons all among the elite seasons ever put up by a pitcher and then after arguably his greatest season has to retire at age 30 when many pitchers are peaking when the perfect combination of physical ability and veteran knowledge often mesh it's hard not to play the what if game. If his physical problems had caused a mediocre final season I think it would drastically alter the perception.

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He was a huge leader on the Cardinals , won a couple World Series .
You might want to look him up .
It’s Albert Pujols I think you might be confusing him with someone else
It's an opinion, not a stats fact-based opinion. My opinion is that Judge is a greater player than Pujols. You are free to have a different opinion of course, but mine is Judge.

He should be able to win a couple World Series before his career is over. He's a better leader on his team and has a bigger impact on the game that he is playing in. He has a less than a third at bats than Pujols had so far so he has a long way to go still, and I believe when he's done, he will be better overall. Again, this is an opinion. No need to argue about it. I'm not putting Pujols down or anything, but when it comes to who is a great ballplayer, I choose Judge.



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It's an opinion, not a stats fact-based opinion. My opinion is that Judge is a greater player than Pujols. You are free to have a different opinion of course, but mine is Judge.

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If your opinion is not fact based, doesn’t that make it a rather bad opinion? Why would it be better to hold an opinion one knows is contrary to facts than to adjust their opinion to what they know to be factually reasonable?
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It's an opinion, not a stats fact-based opinion. My opinion is that Judge is a greater player than Pujols. You are free to have a different opinion of course, but mine is Judge.

He should be able to win a couple World Series before his career is over. He's a better leader on his team and has a bigger impact on the game that he is playing in. He has a less than a third at bats than Pujols had so far so he has a long way to go still, and I believe when he's done, he will be better overall. Again, this is an opinion. No need to argue about it. I'm not putting Pujols down or anything, but when it comes to who is a great ballplayer, I choose Judge.



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