SGC 5 T206 Wagner

[4815162342]

Originally Posted by boneheadandrube

There's also an obviously trimmed Wagner in an 8 holder not doing its grading company any PR favors.

Which one is worth more: the trimmed PSA 8 or the overgraded SGC 5?

[Carter08]

Originally Posted by 4815162342

Which one is worth more: the trimmed PSA 8 or the overgraded PSA 5?

Excellent question.

[Johnny630]

Originally Posted by 4815162342

Which one is worth more: the trimmed PSA 8 or the overgraded SGC 5?

To the collector the SGC 5 to the investor the PSA 8. The PSA 8 holds way more value to the investor. I believe that if that card, the PSA 8 ever came to auction it would do well over 100 million.

[steve B]

Pretty much every Wagner is over graded.

[brunswickreeves]

Originally Posted by Johnny630

To the collector the SGC 5 to the investor the PSA 8. The PSA 8 holds way more value to the investor. I believe that if that card, the PSA 8 ever came to auction it would do well over 100 million.

Which will sell for more: PSA 8 T206 Wagner or 1952 Topps Mick PSA 10?

[Johnny630]

Originally Posted by brunswickreeves

Which will sell for more: PSA 8 T206 Wagner or 1952 Topps Mick PSA 10?

Wagner

[parkplace33]

Originally Posted by Johnny630

To the collector the SGC 5 to the investor the PSA 8. The PSA 8 holds way more value to the investor. I believe that if that card, the PSA 8 ever came to auction it would do well over 100 million.

100 percent. Definitely an iconic card in the hobby. The lore, the backstory.

[Johnny630]

Originally Posted by parkplace33

100 percent. Definitely an iconic card in the hobby. The lore, the backstory.

Absolutely

[4815162342]

Originally Posted by Johnny630

To the collector the SGC 5 to the investor the PSA 8. The PSA 8 holds way more value to the investor. I believe that if that card, the PSA 8 ever came to auction it would do well over 100 million.

It might break the record for the highest auction price of any sports collectible, but $100 million? No way.

[Timeless Cardboard]

I’m a SGC fan and only grade with SGC but in my opinion that Wagner is at best a 2 super rounded corners and a spot at the top of the card. Absolutely great looking card but way to over graded.

[Carter08]

I would have thought the Gretzky Wagner fell a little out of favor due to trimming. Still worth many many millions but is the history of the card a good thing for it or does it negatively affect it?

[Jstottlemire1]

Originally Posted by Carter08

I would have thought the Gretzky Wagner fell a little out of favor due to trimming. Still worth many many millions but is the history of the card a good thing for it or does it negatively affect it?

It’s not a trimmed card though it was cut from a sheet. Very different in some eyes, some hate it, yet some don’t mind at all.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Jstottlemire1

It’s not a trimmed card though it was cut from a sheet. Very different in some eyes, some hate it, yet some don’t mind at all.

The received wisdom is that it was sheet cut back in the annals of time, was still oversize, and was later trimmed by Mastro.

[Cliff Bowman]

Originally Posted by Jstottlemire1

It’s not a trimmed card though it was cut from a sheet. Very different in some eyes, some hate it, yet some don’t mind at all.

I have never understood the vitriol for that card as long as it meets the measurement requirements for a standard T206 (I don't know if it does or not but I assume it does). Like you said, it's hand cut/sheet cut not trimmed. From what I understand Mastro took an oversized football shaped Wagner and cut it to a standard size T206 with an exacto knife. That is completely different than busting out a PSA 8 1986-87 Fleer Michael Jordan and then micro trimming it and turning it into a PSA 9 or PSA 10. Saying that and supporting Dean's Cards wiil get me ostracized here .