VERY High End Card in Beckett Holder - Thoughts

[swarmee]

Originally Posted by Gr8Beldini

Hypothetical: If I cross it over and it comes back altered, trimmed, or "minimum size requirement," is there any recourse from the original grader (Beckett). FYI... the card in question is on ebay now. 1967 Seaver in a Beckett 8.5 holder. Seems like one of those too good to be legit deals... but it looks really nice.

BGS has no grade guarantee. Although they were sued in a similar case over a quarter million dollar card. https://www.sportscollectorsdaily.co...-auction-more/

[raulus]

Originally Posted by swarmee

BGS has no grade guarantee. Although they were sued in a similar case over a quarter million dollar card. https://www.sportscollectorsdaily.co...-auction-more/

Interesting.

Looks like the case is ongoing. Beckett tried to have it dismissed, but lost the ruling, so there's still a chance the plaintiff could prevail.

[jchcollins]

Beckett would not be my preference, but if you have no questions on authenticity and are happy with the appearance for a PC card, then there is nothing wrong with it. I did this fairly recently on a nice '69 Reggie RC in a BVG 4.5 that walked into my LCS. It was an old flip that had the subgrades on the back - which if you were active in the hobby in the early 2000's - there was a brief period of time when they did this and were actually fairly tough graders.

So, I bought the card for what I thought was a fair price. Ironically, in checking out the cert after I bought it, it would not come up on the Beckett database - so I called them. Long story short, the slab was "so old" that Beckett could not even stand behind it. (Huh?) I mean the slab was old, but not that old. It was from maybe 2005 or so; PSA and SGC still routinely stand by their slabs that old for purposes of re-holder, etc. The kicker on this was if I wanted it reholdered and to appear in their cert verification, BVG wanted me to to pay for both shipping and regrading on my dime. Uh, no thanks. I just left it in the old holder, it was in good shape and I kind of dig the subgrades on the back - which of course nobody does anymore for vintage.

Only caution for Seaver with Beckett - I will say that in the distant past I have seen a fake Seaver RC that got holdered as authentic in a BVG slab. I'm sure they got called on that.