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Old 06-06-2024, 07:23 AM
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The only thing that Beckett does that other TPGs don't do is they will grade sheet-cut/hand-cut cards that could normally be obtained with a factory cut. I see that somewhat regularly with O-Pee-Chee hockey cards.
PSA grades the 84 Nestles cards that were only issued in full sheets.
Probably plenty of others too.
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Old 06-06-2024, 07:28 AM
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PSA grades the 84 Nestles cards that were only issued in full sheets.
Probably plenty of others too.

Yeah, that’s not what I’m saying. I’m saying PSA won’t grade (numerically) cards that were hand cut from full sheets IF those cards could be obtained as singles cut from the factory.
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Old 06-06-2024, 03:26 PM
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Yeah, that’s not what I’m saying. I’m saying PSA won’t grade (numerically) cards that were hand cut from full sheets IF those cards could be obtained as singles cut from the factory.
IFF they can detect it...
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IFF they can detect it...
Bingo.

Also, to the OP…buy it and just regrade if you don’t like Beckett. Regardless of rumor I see no proof that Beckett misses anything more than PSA or SGC, it seems like a brand homer belief. The only concern is the sheet cut, which is factual. As you have not given the card set, it’s impossible to say if that would even apply
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Agree with Justin on all counts. I have crossed several cards from BVG to PSA and had better than anticipated results.
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Bingo.

Also, to the OP…buy it and just regrade if you don’t like Beckett. Regardless of rumor I see no proof that Beckett misses anything more than PSA or SGC, it seems like a brand homer belief. The only concern is the sheet cut, which is factual. As you have not given the card set, it’s impossible to say if that would even apply
Hypothetical: If I cross it over and it comes back altered, trimmed, or "minimum size requirement," is there any recourse from the original grader (Beckett). FYI... the card in question is on ebay now. 1967 Seaver in a Beckett 8.5 holder. Seems like one of those too good to be legit deals... but it looks really nice.
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Old 06-12-2024, 04:26 PM
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Hypothetical: If I cross it over and it comes back altered, trimmed, or "minimum size requirement," is there any recourse from the original grader (Beckett). FYI... the card in question is on ebay now. 1967 Seaver in a Beckett 8.5 holder. Seems like one of those too good to be legit deals... but it looks really nice.
BGS has no grade guarantee. Although they were sued in a similar case over a quarter million dollar card. https://www.sportscollectorsdaily.co...-auction-more/
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BGS has no grade guarantee. Although they were sued in a similar case over a quarter million dollar card. https://www.sportscollectorsdaily.co...-auction-more/
Interesting.

Looks like the case is ongoing. Beckett tried to have it dismissed, but lost the ruling, so there's still a chance the plaintiff could prevail.
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Hypothetical: If I cross it over and it comes back altered, trimmed, or "minimum size requirement," is there any recourse from the original grader (Beckett). FYI... the card in question is on ebay now. 1967 Seaver in a Beckett 8.5 holder. Seems like one of those too good to be legit deals... but it looks really nice.
I’m not seeing anything that would bring it back as altered but it’s not gonna cross over at 8.5 - Not sure how PSA would treat the two full rough cut borders but the corner near the M in Mets is not a near mint corner - Centering is really good - A nice PSA seven would be about $2k .
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