Memory Lane sold cards they didn't have per SCD

[jayshum]

Originally Posted by Fuddjcal

Had I known about the theft & not having a clue which cards were stolen, I would not have made 1 bid on anything. Therefore, I would not have won a thing. Kind of like Logic 101

Presumably you bid on cards you were hoping to win so I don't understand why you're not happy you actually won them. I am sure the people who bid on cards that were stolen aren't happy they won't be receiving the cards they though they had won.

[Fuddjcal]

Originally Posted by jayshum

Presumably you bid on cards you were hoping to win so I don't understand why you're not happy you actually won them. I am sure the people who bid on cards that were stolen aren't happy they won't be receiving the cards they though they had won.

Thanks for the question. While I don't feel I owe you or others an explanation of my vague statements, out of respect for the people involved, my respect for NET54 and it's members I'll try.

I don't really like doing business with companies I don't like or trust. I do believe what ML did before and after the facts are not right. Others have a different opinion. That's OK. I actually have stood up against big companies in my life never to do business with them again. I have fired GM (1983-2021-I really wanted that Corvette, ) over a car that blew up after 15K miles (I paid less for that car than I did the 3-baseball cards), Costco and American Express to name just a few.

Currently, I have paid ML over 5K in commissions for goods I do not have. I don't like that I have to go pick up the cards that I'm "hoping" are there. I hope Santa Claus comes down the chimney Dec 25th too. I had 2 choices. Not pay them like a big fat loser and damage my reputation or Pay them and move on. I conduct ALL my business with Integrity, which is why I believe I have this type of $$$ to piss away on baseball cards in the first place. I paid them immediately.

I would not have bid at all on this auction had I known there were still many "unidentified" cards stolen from it so they could continue to run their sham of an auction. I don't really give a sh** the reasons. IMHO, it was not right or just. That's how I live my life. You or others are free to make your own decisions. I've made mine and I will stick to it. I did not appreciate how they handled the cards going into or out of Shitsville. Memory Lane is just that after my pick-up TUESDAY...a BAD MEMORY. I hope that helps?

[steve B]

A little thing one of you put together for me long ago. But I think it's appropriate to post it.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by steve B

A little thing one of you put together for me long ago. But I think it's appropriate to post it.

It needs a guy with a stick hitting the horse.

[steve B]

Originally Posted by bnorth

It needs a guy with a stick hitting the horse.

It does, but I dont have the photoshop skills.
I mentioned we needed a thing of a dead horse jumping a shark and suprisingly got exactly that.

I'm quite happy with it as-is.

[parkplace33]

This is another writeup about the theft:

https://www.wkyc.com/article/news/cr...a-965bf2018411

The only additional information I see is The collection of 54 missing cards includes rare Cracker Jack cards, along with high-quality Mickey Mantle and Roberto Clemente cards.

[Republicaninmass]

Originally Posted by jayshum

Presumably you bid on cards you were hoping to win so I don't understand why you're not happy you actually won them. I am sure the people who bid on cards that were stolen aren't happy they won't be receiving the cards they though they had won.

Doesn't want to be part of the "billion dollar fraud"

[Fuddjcal]

Originally Posted by Republicaninmass

Doesn't want to be part of the "billion dollar fraud"

Exactly! At least you've come around Teddy to it ALL being a billion dollar fraud now

[Snapolit1]

I realize their hands are somewhat tied due to an ongoing LE investigation and insurance concerns, but I cannot belive they haven't issued a one page statement to the collecting world "DEAR OUR LOYAL CONSIGNORS, CUSTOMERS, AND OTHER LOYAL SUPPORTERS" and said . . . . well, . . . something. Even if we wish we could say more, but are really honest folks, have always appreciated your loyal patronage, thank you [nine different ways], and we will keep you informed as this plays out. That seems like basic public relations and crisis management 101. Saying nothing is not a smart move to limit reputational harm.

[ALBB]

I get the jist of this sad tale, but not understanding one part -

OK, these stolen cards. Why were they going to Best West OH ?

I thought they were all in the Mem Lane auction ?

Was the plan to display all cards at show and try and drum up more bids ?

Or last day of bidding coinciding with last day of show for excitement ?

[vintagerookies51]

Originally Posted by ALBB

I get the jist of this sad tale, but not understanding one part -

OK, these stolen cards. Why were they going to Best West OH ?

I thought they were all in the Mem Lane auction ?

Was the plan to display all cards at show and try and drum up more bids ?

Or last day of bidding coinciding with last day of show for excitement ?

It's pretty standard at big shows to display cards that will be in an upcoming auction to attract bidders.

[Lorewalker]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

Saying nothing is not a smart move to limit reputational harm.

In the real world that is what should be done but this is our hobby. They just have to have some amazing stuff in their next auction and all will be forgotten.

[calvindog]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

I realize their hands are somewhat tied due to an ongoing LE investigation and insurance concerns, but I cannot belive they haven't issued a one page statement to the collecting world "DEAR OUR LOYAL CONSIGNORS, CUSTOMERS, AND OTHER LOYAL SUPPORTERS" and said . . . . well, . . . something. Even if we wish we could say more, but are really honest folks, have always appreciated your loyal patronage, thank you [nine different ways], and we will keep you informed as this plays out. That seems like basic public relations and crisis management 101. Saying nothing is not a smart move to limit reputational harm.

I agree. Even if they’re not permitted to say much, they can say something.

[parkplace33]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

I realize their hands are somewhat tied due to an ongoing LE investigation and insurance concerns, but I cannot belive they haven't issued a one page statement to the collecting world "DEAR OUR LOYAL CONSIGNORS, CUSTOMERS, AND OTHER LOYAL SUPPORTERS" and said . . . . well, . . . something. Even if we wish we could say more, but are really honest folks, have always appreciated your loyal patronage, thank you [nine different ways], and we will keep you informed as this plays out. That seems like basic public relations and crisis management 101. Saying nothing is not a smart move to limit reputational harm.

Almost 4 weeks now since the theft. I don't expect anything now from them, except an email announcing their next auction.

[BeanTown]

Originally Posted by parkplace33

Almost 4 weeks now since the theft. I don't expect anything now from them, except an email announcing their next auction.

Or to pay them for the items you won and they are in possession of.

[BeanTown]

On a positive note…. I will say, when I win items of value from Memory Lane, it comes in a very nice ML box, and on my birthday they send a card with a couple pieces of candy. So, they do acknowledge their customers and do the little things right.