2024 Classic HOF election

Svabinsky78 · #1 05-04-2024, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

I thought Allen just got rejected, how can he be up again?

He cannot be a candidate on the Dec 2024 ballot for Classic Era Committee that votes on pre 1980 players? I know that with the last ballot he fell short. I am not familiar with the voting process. I am not sure if he would have to sit out a round because he got rejected the last time.

jayshum · #2 05-04-2024, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

I thought Allen just got rejected, how can he be up again?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Svabinsky78

He cannot be a candidate on the Dec 2024 ballot for Classic Era Committee that votes on pre 1980 players? I know that with the last ballot he fell short. I am not familiar with the voting process. I am not sure if he would have to sit out a round because he got rejected the last time.

I don't think there is any rule requiring someone to sit out a round after previously being considered. He missed by 1 vote in both 2015 and 2022. I'm not sure if there was a ballot in between that he was eligible for but wasn't on.

From what I found on the Baseball Hall of Fame website, this is how the ballot is determined:

"Screening Committee

The BBWAA-appointed Historical Overview Committee shall serve as the Screening Committee and consist of 10-12 representatives. The Committee shall identify eight (8) candidates for the Contemporary Baseball Era Players, Contemporary Baseball Era Non-Players and Classic Baseball Era ballot."

The Classic Baseball Era ballot is for players prior to 1980 which is where Allen would be, and the next ballot for this group will be voted on this year in December.

https://baseballhall.org/hall-of-fam...era-committees

packs · #3 05-04-2024, 11:45 AM

Put in Glasscock finally. People are already paying for him like he�s in and he deserves it.

Peter_Spaeth · #4 05-04-2024, 11:52 AM

Reading suggests Allen next eligible in 2026.

jayshum · #5 05-04-2024, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Reading suggests Allen next eligible in 2026.

Where did you see that? Based on what I found, I think he could be on the ballot the end of this year.

Peter_Spaeth · #6 05-04-2024, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by jayshum

Where did you see that? Based on what I found, I think he could be on the ballot the end of this year.

https://www.cbsnews.com/philadelphia...-hall-of-fame/

And this.

https://www.cooperstowncred.com/dick...-hall-of-fame/
Dick Allen was indeed a controversial player. He had the talent equal to the game’s all-time greats and does not have the career statistics to match. That is why he does not yet have a plaque in Cooperstown. So many of us expected that status to change with the Hall’s Class of 2022. But it was not to be. We’ll all have to wait until the December 2026 ballot, which will consider players for the Class of 2027.

jayshum · #7 05-04-2024, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

https://www.cbsnews.com/philadelphia...-hall-of-fame/

And this.

https://www.cooperstowncred.com/dick...-hall-of-fame/
Dick Allen was indeed a controversial player. He had the talent equal to the game�s all-time greats and does not have the career statistics to match. That is why he does not yet have a plaque in Cooperstown. So many of us expected that status to change with the Hall�s Class of 2022. But it was not to be. We�ll all have to wait until the December 2026 ballot, which will consider players for the Class of 2027.

Thanks for the links. They seem to contradict what's on the Baseball Hall of Fame site so I guess we'll see what happens later this year.

UPCOMING ERA COMMITTEES ELECTIONS
Classic Baseball Era: December of 2024 for inclusion in the Class of 2025

The Classic Baseball Era, consisting of the period prior to 1980 and including Negro Leagues and pre-Negro Leagues stars.

clydepepper · #8 05-04-2024, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by packs

Put in Glasscock finally. People are already paying for him like he�s in and he deserves it.

Especially, playing as well as he did with that handicap.

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Casey2296 · #9 05-04-2024, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by clydepepper

Especially, playing as well as he did with that handicap.

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Well played

BioCRN · #10 05-04-2024, 07:27 PM

Not seem him mentioned yet, but I'm invested in Luis Tiant making the HOF one day.

I use "HOF prospecting" to help finance my hobby purchases...buying graded RC's of guys who are undervalued because of a lack of hobby heat. Jim Kaat was a recent big win for the wallet. I made a decent profit on a few Jim Leyland graded, but his market didn't materialize as much as I hoped. Dick Allen has been over-heated so long I don't like the buy-in price, though many think he's a sure thing one day.

Also, I wonder how this committee handles a guy like Dave Parker. He played more games during the 80s, but he was obviously at his hottest during the 70s.

Aquarian Sports Cards · #11 05-04-2024, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by BioCRN

Not seem him mentioned yet, but I'm invested in Luis Tiant making the HOF one day.

I use "HOF prospecting" to help finance my hobby purchases...buying graded RC's of guys who are undervalued because of a lack of hobby heat. Jim Kaat was a recent big win for the wallet. I made a decent profit on a few Jim Leyland graded, but his market didn't materialize as much as I hoped. Dick Allen has been over-heated so long I don't like the buy-in price, though many think he's a sure thing one day.

Also, I wonder how this committee handles a guy like Dave Parker. He played more games during the 80s, but he was obviously at his hottest during the 70s.

There's a decent list of guys like Tiant, John, Grich, even Concepcion that can be picked up dirt cheap. I've always thought it was an underrated strategy. Ted Simmons is another great success story for those who bought like this.

ALBB · #12 07-19-2024, 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by clydepepper

especially, playing as well as he did with that handicap.

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hahha

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