2024 Classic HOF election

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by jayshum

Where did you see that? Based on what I found, I think he could be on the ballot the end of this year.

https://www.cbsnews.com/philadelphia...-hall-of-fame/

And this.

https://www.cooperstowncred.com/dick...-hall-of-fame/
Dick Allen was indeed a controversial player. He had the talent equal to the game’s all-time greats and does not have the career statistics to match. That is why he does not yet have a plaque in Cooperstown. So many of us expected that status to change with the Hall’s Class of 2022. But it was not to be. We’ll all have to wait until the December 2026 ballot, which will consider players for the Class of 2027.

[jayshum]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

https://www.cbsnews.com/philadelphia...-hall-of-fame/

And this.

https://www.cooperstowncred.com/dick...-hall-of-fame/
Dick Allen was indeed a controversial player. He had the talent equal to the game’s all-time greats and does not have the career statistics to match. That is why he does not yet have a plaque in Cooperstown. So many of us expected that status to change with the Hall’s Class of 2022. But it was not to be. We’ll all have to wait until the December 2026 ballot, which will consider players for the Class of 2027.

Thanks for the links. They seem to contradict what's on the Baseball Hall of Fame site so I guess we'll see what happens later this year.

UPCOMING ERA COMMITTEES ELECTIONS
Classic Baseball Era: December of 2024 for inclusion in the Class of 2025

The Classic Baseball Era, consisting of the period prior to 1980 and including Negro Leagues and pre-Negro Leagues stars.

[packs]

I’d like to see Perucho Cepeda get consideration but he avoided the Negro Leagues and America in general and I can’t think of another player who played solely in leagues like him that got in.

[The Detroit Collector]

The way Catchers are getting recognized these days, I would like to see Bill Freehan get in.

[perezfan]

I would like to see 3 Cincinnati-related Execs get in, as all three are overlooked...

John Brush, August Herrmann, and Bob Howsam (despite his idiotic decision to trade Tony Perez for Woody Fryman after the 1976 season). Still, the architect and creator of the Big Red Machine needs to be in the HOF.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by The Detroit Collector

The way Catchers are getting recognized these days, I would like to see Bill Freehan get in.

11x all star, but has he even been on a ballot in recent years?

[molenick]

The fact that there are only two era committees and the early one covers anyone before 1980 will make it very difficult for any specific player we mention to get in. Essentially they are considering everyone from Jim Creighton to Dick Allen (about 120 years of baseball). First you have to get on the ballot, then you need 3/4 of the votes. As mentioned, the ballot consists of eight names, and I have a feeling many of of us could think of eight players (or managers, executives, umpires, pioneers, etc.) deserving of consideration in any of five distinct categories: 19th century, dead ball era, live ball era pre-integration, post-integration before 1980, Negro League and pre-Negro Leagues...let alone eight people from the entire period.

To whittle 120 years of candidates down to eight will be a tough task...and then you need to get 75% of the final vote. So, I imagine someone will get in...but who that will be seems like a crap shoot.

[Moonlight Graham]

Roger Maris

[Mike D.]

Originally Posted by molenick

The fact that there are only two era committees and the early one covers anyone before 1980 will make it very difficult for any specific player we mention to get in. Essentially they are considering everyone from Jim Creighton to Dick Allen (about 120 years of baseball). First you have to get on the ballot, then you need 3/4 of the votes. As mentioned, the ballot consists of eight names, and I have a feeling many of of us could think of eight players (or managers, executives, umpires, pioneers, etc.) deserving of consideration in any of five distinct categories: 19th century, dead ball era, live ball era pre-integration, post-integration before 1980, Negro League and pre-Negro Leagues...let alone eight people from the entire period.

To whittle 120 years of candidates down to eight will be a tough task...and then you need to get 75% of the final vote. So, I imagine someone will get in...but who that will be seems like a crap shoot.

Yes, this. There are SO many directions the committee could go, it's almost impossible to speculate. Maybe this is the discussion of "who could/should be on the ballot".

But 8 players from 120 years of baseball is tough. I'm sure you could come up with a good list of 8 pre-war, 8 50's-60's, 8 70's, and 8 negro league stars and all those lists would be defensible. Probably a list of managers, execs, pioneers, etc. that you could add to the tally.

It'll be really interesting to see who ends up on the ballot. The only sure thing is that there will be SOME deserving candiates on the list, but that none of us will agree with the entire list.

[The Detroit Collector]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

11x all star, but has he even been on a ballot in recent years?

It's been forever. But with there being a new look at catchers these days, he should get another look, especially if Thurman Munson is in the conversation.