Hey, pennant guys

[Fballguy]

Anyone have this beauty?

Just wondering…Did he sell these or give them away? Or just a decoration by his tables?

[Duluth Eskimo]

Some of his items he handed away and some he would give to you if you sold something to him. He’s had all kinds of things over the years and shows.

[UKCardGuy]

Did anyone see this 1920 Dodgers grommet pennant on ebay that closed yesterday?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/266760111558

Besides the condition something didn't seem quite right about it. Thoughts?

[thetahat]

Originally Posted by UKCardGuy

Did anyone see this 1920 Dodgers grommet pennant on ebay that closed yesterday?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/266760111558

Besides the condition something didn't seem quite right about it. Thoughts?

I think legit. This is mine. I think these and all of the dated grommet championship pennants may have all been made in the late 1930s. Mark and Kyle need to check in on this …

[Duluth Eskimo]

Originally Posted by thetahat

I think legit. This is mine. I think these and all of the dated grommet championship pennants may have all been made in the late 1930s. Mark and Kyle need to check in on this …

It was legit. There were many different and very rare versions of this same style. Mark beat me out on a particularly beautiful 1936 Yankees version that is black. The earliest I have seen is a 1919 Chicago White Sox which I haven't seen in a real long time. I think it might have belonged to Halper and sold with his collection.

[Domer05]

Originally Posted by thetahat

I think legit. This is mine. I think these and all of the dated grommet championship pennants may have all been made in the late 1930s. Mark and Kyle need to check in on this …

It appears to be legit. Unfortunately, it's lost all traces of its grommets....

Grommet pennants seem to range between 1919 and 1939. That 1919 AL Champs White Sox one Jason mentioned ... sold for $34,500!

For more, see: https://pennantfactory.weebly.com/bl...champs-pennant

[thetahat]

Originally Posted by Domer05

It appears to be legit. Unfortunately, it's lost all traces of its grommets....

Grommet pennants seem to range between 1919 and 1939. That 1919 AL Champs White Sox one Jason mentioned ... sold for $34,500!

For more, see: https://pennantfactory.weebly.com/bl...champs-pennant

I think there are a few things that suggest a later production, albeit still very old.

1. I have seen a 1915 Phillies version. So the design of the champions pennants do span at least 20 years. They all look very much alike, which would be unlikely if they were making them each year as opposed to a one-time production honoring past champs.

2. There are at least three color variations of the 1920 Dodgers. That’s just unusual for pennants of that period. By the late 1930s companies were making same style/different colors. Browns grommet pennants of this style from the late 1930s and early 40s come in 5 or 6 different colors.

3. The 1915 Phillies is a more “modern sized” pennant, 28-29” long, and not oversized as many/most of the teens pennants were.

None of these points suggest anything certain and I’m probably about 80% confident that these were commemorative pennants made for some event. Maybe the opening of the HOF or the 1939 centennial. That’s just an educated guess.

I have seen, in this style (grommets, design, etc.)

1915 Phillies
1918 Red Sox
1919 White Sox
1920 Dodgers
1920 Indians
1933 Senators
1936 Yankees
1936 Giants

Additionally there are Cardinals (non-champs) dated 1937, 38, 39 and a 1939 Browns, all from this grommet pennant company.

[ooo-ribay]

Great points on the grommet pennants, Greg!

Somehow, I may have missed Kyle’s Pennant Factory grommet. Even though it’s D**gers, it’s damn cool. I love the color scheme.

Do you guys think $600+ was an overpay on the trashed ebay Dodgers? I’m not really a “condition guy” but, OMG, that thing was rough. Given how rare the grommet pennants seem to be, maybe some think $600+ wasn’t an overpay…

….for a grommet pennant with no grommets!

[Domer05]

Originally Posted by thetahat

I think there are a few things that suggest a later production, albeit still very old.

1. I have seen a 1915 Phillies version. So the design of the champions pennants do span at least 20 years. They all look very much alike, which would be unlikely if they were making them each year as opposed to a one-time production honoring past champs.

2. There are at least three color variations of the 1920 Dodgers. That’s just unusual for pennants of that period. By the late 1930s companies were making same style/different colors. Browns grommet pennants of this style from the late 1930s and early 40s come in 5 or 6 different colors.

3. The 1915 Phillies is a more “modern sized” pennant, 28-29” long, and not oversized as many/most of the teens pennants were.

None of these points suggest anything certain and I’m probably about 80% confident that these were commemorative pennants made for some event. Maybe the opening of the HOF or the 1939 centennial. That’s just an educated guess.

I have seen, in this style (grommets, design, etc.)

1915 Phillies
1918 Red Sox
1919 White Sox
1920 Dodgers
1920 Indians
1933 Senators
1936 Yankees
1936 Giants

Additionally there are Cardinals (non-champs) dated 1937, 38, 39 and a 1939 Browns, all from this grommet pennant company.

I've never seen this 1915 Phillies grommet pennant; or the 1918 Red Sox. Anybody have photos of them??

[UKCardGuy]

Does anyone have a picture of the 1915 Phillies grommet pennant?

Here's a couple of new pickups. The 64 ASG is pretty tough to find.

Any info on the Boston Pennant would be appreciated.

[UKCardGuy]

Originally Posted by thetahat

I think there are a few things that suggest a later production, albeit still very old.

1. I have seen a 1915 Phillies version. So the design of the champions pennants do span at least 20 years. They all look very much alike, which would be unlikely if they were making them each year as opposed to a one-time production honoring past champs.

2. There are at least three color variations of the 1920 Dodgers. That’s just unusual for pennants of that period. By the late 1930s companies were making same style/different colors. Browns grommet pennants of this style from the late 1930s and early 40s come in 5 or 6 different colors.

3. The 1915 Phillies is a more “modern sized” pennant, 28-29” long, and not oversized as many/most of the teens pennants were.

None of these points suggest anything certain and I’m probably about 80% confident that these were commemorative pennants made for some event. Maybe the opening of the HOF or the 1939 centennial. That’s just an educated guess.

I have seen, in this style (grommets, design, etc.)

1915 Phillies
1918 Red Sox
1919 White Sox
1920 Dodgers
1920 Indians
1933 Senators
1936 Yankees
1936 Giants

Additionally there are Cardinals (non-champs) dated 1937, 38, 39 and a 1939 Browns, all from this grommet pennant company.

Does anyone have a photo of the 1920 Indians or the 1933 Senators grommet pennants?

[ooo-ribay]

Originally Posted by UKCardGuy

Did anyone see this 1920 Dodgers grommet pennant on ebay that closed yesterday?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/266760111558

Besides the condition something didn't seem quite right about it. Thoughts?

Ay yi yi! $600+ for THAT????