Every slabbed card has a story, don't it?

[Snowman]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

That's not an answer to my question. Why are you calling them "card doctors" if you don't think they're doctoring cards?

Because I'm not equating "card doctoring" with "altering cards". I think you can "doctor" a card in both acceptable and unacceptable manners.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Snowman

Because I'm not equating "card doctoring" with "altering cards". I think you can "doctor" a card in both acceptable and unacceptable manners.

Then why did you even mention it in your post? It was obviously meant to be provocative. Plus, you surely know the negative connotation of the term card doctor. So you must consider yourself a card doctor if you're doing acceptable things to cards?

[Lorewalker]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Then why did you even mention it in your post? It was obviously meant to be provocative. Plus, you surely know the negative connotation of the term card doctor. So you must consider yourself a card doctor if you're doing acceptable things to cards?

Someone from Snowman's corner throw in the towel.

[G1911]

I would love to see the evidence that the following are all "notorious card doctors": eBay, Probstein, Heritage, Goldin, REA, Mile High, LotG.

Of course, this won't be done because while there is some truth to a couple of those, the claim is presumably intentionally outrageous and wrong to obfuscate and switch direction away from PWCC, for which this poster frequently shills when he isn't claiming he can read strangers minds and tell their sins because he is a gambler.

Not every claim should be taken seriously.

[Snowman]

Originally Posted by Lorewalker

Someone from Snowman's corner throw in the towel.

Serious question. Do you ever add anything of value to any conversation? Or do you just stick to trolling at all times?

[Lorewalker]

Originally Posted by Snowman

Serious question. Do you ever add anything of value to any conversation? Or do you just stick to trolling at all times?

That is actually a hilarious question coming from you of all the members here, Travis.

By the way, you never answered me what size shirt I should order for you.

[Snowman]

Originally Posted by lorewalker

that is actually a hilarious question coming from you of all the members here, travis.

By the way, you never answered me what size shirt i should order for you.

gfy

[EddieP]

Originally Posted by Snowman

gfy

In case anyone doesn’t know what this means, here it is in Morse Code


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[bnorth]

Originally Posted by Lorewalker

That is actually a hilarious question coming from you of all the members here, Travis.

By the way, you never answered me what size shirt I should order for you.

I find many of his answers extremely hilarious.

[Lorewalker]

Originally Posted by bnorth

I find many of his answers extremely hilarious.

Ben I do too. He is very amusing.

[4815162342]

Originally Posted by Snowman

Because I'm not equating "card doctoring" with "altering cards". I think you can "doctor" a card in both acceptable and unacceptable manners.

So I guess the word “notorious” is ambiguous as well?


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[CardPadre]

In the near future, a card doctor may simply be someone who heals cards.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by CardPadre

In the near future, a card doctor may simply be someone who heals cards.

My card took two aspirin and felt fine the next morning.

Me thinks some of those wrinkles on Mays will come back over time. But I don't have any experience with removing creases like that so maybe I am wrong.
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[Peter_Spaeth]

I am sure the defenders and contrarians will defend this. To me, it's just wrong unless disclosed.

[Gorditadogg]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

I am sure the defenders and contrarians will defend this. To me, it's just wrong unless disclosed.

???

You were fine when Jolly soaked his Mays card. With all well-deserved respect, what is the difference here?

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[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Gorditadogg

???

You were fine when Jolly soaked his Mays card. With all well-deserved respect, what is the difference here?

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Darren used only water on a minor dent, and would disclose it. This dude used some top sercret chemical bath on a shitload of major creases, and doubtless without disclosure. If you think that's the same thing, fine, but I don't.

[Snowman]

Originally Posted by Leon

My card took two aspirin and felt fine the next morning.

Me thinks some of those wrinkles on Mays will come back over time. But I don't have any experience with removing creases like that so maybe I am wrong.
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They're still there. They didn't go away. The light angle is just different so you can't see them as clearly, and the wrinkles are less severe now that the card has regained some of its shape by introducing moisture. But I guarantee you these creases did not disappear.

In the top photo, the light source is placed parallel to the card surface, which highlights creasing (if you don't do this when self-grading your cards, you should). In the second photo, the light source is above and to the right, which hides the creases.

[perezfan]

Originally Posted by Snowman

They're still there. They didn't go away. The light angle is just different so you can't see them as clearly, and the wrinkles are less severe now that the card has regained some of its shape by introducing moisture. But I guarantee you these creases did not disappear.

In the top photo, the light source is placed parallel to the card surface, which highlights creasing (if you don't do this when self-grading your cards, you should). In the second photo, the light source is above and to the right, which hides the creases.

Completely agree.... the differences you see are more a function of lighting and clever photography than Kurt's Card Care. I'd estimate about 75% of the supposed "difference" is positioning of the light source and maybe 25% is the soaking (much of which will revert back over time).

[Lorewalker]

Originally Posted by perezfan

Completely agree.... the differences you see are more a function of lighting and clever photography than Kurt's Card Care. I'd estimate about 75% of the supposed "difference" is positioning of the light source and maybe 25% is the soaking (much of which will revert back over time).

He has shown some before and afters where he claims he simply sprayed the stuff on the card and clamped it under those pieces of plexiglass and the wrinkles vanished. Cards went SGC/PSA 3s to SGC/PSA 7s.

Posted this before and will post it again. I want to see what Kurt is doing to those cards after he stops taking the video...you know...the time while the card is drying. I just cannot believe one gets a 4 grade bump with Kurt's spray.