Happy Festivus! Airing of Grievances 2023 Edition

[Leon]

Originally Posted by raulus

Either we all have bigger complaints, or what you’ve always suspected is true.

LOL (Room full of people who care)
Yeap, the doctoring is all cleaned up. Put a bandage on it, take 2 aspirin, and see me in 3 weeks.
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[Eric72]

“Make me an offer.”

Okay, I offer to consider buying your card if you put a price on it.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Eric72

“Make me an offer.”

Okay, I offer to consider buying your card if you put a price on it.

I have never understood why that bothers people. If you know what you want to pay, make an offer, no?

[Eric72]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

I have never understood why that bothers people. If you know what you want to pay, make an offer, no?

In my personal experience, people in the "make me an offer" camp have been laborious to deal with.

Likely a small sample size; however, personal experiences tend to shape one's personal opinions.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Eric72

In my personal experience, people in the "make me an offer" camp have been laborious to deal with.

Likely a small sample size; however, personal experiences tend to shape one's personal opinions.

As opposed to someone with an absurdly high price?

[Eric72]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

As opposed to someone with an absurdly high price?

I tend to ignore absurdly high prices.

Going back to the "make me an offer" tactic:

I used to try to work with people who chose that route. In the vast majority of those encounters, I wound up buying nothing and spending lots of time doing so.

Nearly everything I chase is fairly common. For example, the last card I picked up was a '56 Ted Williams in VG-EX. When I was looking for that card, I simply passed by any listing (post, showcase, etc.) where the card wasn't priced. There are plenty of copies for sale at any given moment.

I'm getting too old to waste time with people who also want to squeeze every possible penny out of me. Now, if y'all will excuse me, I'm gonna go outside and yell at some clouds.

[HercDriver]

I remember a few years ago, a member here posted something I was interested in, with the "make me an offer" tag. I responded with, "so it's a reverse auction, right?" He got all offended, but that's what that is, basically. I haven't seen the douche muppet on here lately, so maybe he's gone now.

[oldjudge]

Peter--I think the reason is that making the first move conveys information to the other party. If one is willing to sell an item for $X but the potential buyer indicates he is willing to pay $X+ then the seller has been advantaged by not making the first move. The same is obviously true if the seller shows an offer before the buyer has bid.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by oldjudge

Peter--I think the reason is that making the first move conveys information to the other party. If one is willing to sell an item for $X but the potential buyer indicates he is willing to pay $X+ then the seller has been advantaged by not making the first move. The same is obviously true if the seller shows an offer before the buyer has bid.

Well I am assuming Eric or whoever it is, is savvy enough to start with a low offer. If someone has a card I want, I can't imagine passing up a chance just because I'm asked to make the first move.

[Exhibitman]

Originally Posted by oldjudge

Peter--I think the reason is that making the first move conveys information to the other party. If one is willing to sell an item for $X but the potential buyer indicates he is willing to pay $X+ then the seller has been advantaged by not making the first move. The same is obviously true if the seller shows an offer before the buyer has bid.

True, but if no one makes the first move, nothing gets sold.

[brianp-beme]

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

True, but if no one makes the first move, nothing gets sold.

Nor does the earth get repopulated with humans.

Brian

[jingram058]

Graded cards for someone who is a collector is stupid. How do you display a bunch of slabs in a way that doesn't look like a bank vault rather than a collection?

If your thing is graded cards, then you aren't someone who collects cards in a hobby. If you collect graded cards, just come out, get it over with, and say it... you're are investor. You know nothing about the ballplayers, the era in which they played, or any of that. You care about what your cards are monetarily worth. You get all excited if you discover, God forbid, a wrinkle or a crease or an ink drop, or...cardiac arrest here... it's trimmed!

I couldn't care any less about that, because, for me, it's a hobby. I don't even care if my cards are counterfeit fakes, because if they are, someone went to an awful lot of trouble, more than the actual manufacturer ever did.

[jingram058]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

I have never understood why that bothers people. If you know what you want to pay, make an offer, no?

It bothers me because, if you really want to sell it, put a price on it. I'm not making an offer on anything. If you're trying to sell it, price it. Otherwise you're just trying to get rich.

[Bigdaddy]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

I have never understood why that bothers people. If you know what you want to pay, make an offer, no?

How many other marketplaces work like that? Not many; not even a few.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Bigdaddy

How many other marketplaces work like that? Not many; not even a few.

It's atypical for sure, but so what?
How many other marketplaces have 90 percent of the items priced at levels nobody will pay? Those sellers put a price on their items, does that make people feel better about offering?