Banned in Florida

[Snowman]

Originally Posted by Aaron Seefeldt

So I take it the last couple of guys to post don’t believe “the customer is always right”?

The 2 companies mentioned by John (Yoda) would rather turn their backs on a well established collector who has been buying rare vintage baseball items for at least the 30 years I’ve known him instead of finding a mutually satisfactory solution. Hmmmmm, not a great way to grow their companies. I’m glad I don’t have stock in them.

I’ve been a business man since I was a business kid. Even as a youngster I knew that “the customer is always right” - even when they’re wrong - they’re still right!

Anyone who believes that the customer is always right is an idiot. Full stop.

[Aaron Seefeldt]

Originally Posted by Snowman

Anyone who believes that the customer is always right is an idiot. Full stop.

Than I for one am an idiot. Of course this is based on the opinion of a Snowman.

[Snowman]

Originally Posted by Aaron Seefeldt

Than I for one am an idiot. Of course this is based on the opinion of a Snowman.

Charlie sits down in your restaurant and orders a ribeye steak, cooked medium rare. Four minutes later, he starts barking at the waitress, asking what's taking so long. She apologizes and says she will check on it for him. On her way back to the kitchen, she stops at another table to grab their credit card and just as she's beginning to ask how everything was, she gets interrupted by Charlie. Charlie doesn't like his fork. He says it looks dull. He was expecting a shinier fork. The waitress apologizes to the other table and brings Charlie a new set of silverware. As she walks away, you overhear Charlie complaining to the other guests about how slow the service is and how the steakhouse across the street is so much better. Four minutes later, his steak is ready. You grab it from the kitchen and deliver it yourself. You note the steam rising from the plate and say, "careful, the plate is hot" as you set it down in front of him. One minute later, Charlie complains that his knife is dull. As the waitress hands him a new knife, he drops the old one on the floor. He then proceeds to make a sexually inappropriate comment to her as she bends over to pick it up. A few minutes later, Charlie again interrupts the waitress as she's taking an order at another table. He wants to speak to the manager. You walk over and he complains that his steak is cold (after eating 3/4 of it). You offer to reheat it for him, but he declines and starts berating you in front of the other customers. He says he's not paying for his food. You decide that Charlie is just having a bad day, so you comp his meal and apologize. You invite him to come back and to give you another try. "The customer is always right."

Two days later, Charlie returns. But Charlie is still Charlie, and he pulls the same routine with another waitress. This time, she's in tears. You have to take over her section for her while she goes outside for some fresh air and to calm her nerves. Fast forward to the check... Charlie again asks for a comp. His steak is again 3/4 eaten. Today, he just didn't like it. It wasn't cooked right. He asked for medium rare and he "didn't get it" (the steak is clearly pink).

You have 3 choices.

1) You apologize and again comp Charlie's meal. The customer is always right.

2) You tell Charlie that you're sorry, but you cannot comp his meal today and that he should have complained before the steak was nearly finished if he had a problem with it.

3) You tell Charlie the scumbag to go f* himself and that he is no longer welcome at your restaurant.

If you chose option #1, you're an idiot, and it's going to end up costing you your business. If you chose option #2, then you have come to the realization that in fact no, the customer is not always right. But you made a mistake by not 86ing Charlie from the premises. And, if like me, you would have chosen option #3, then it's a moot point because Charlie's ass would have been kicked out on the first visit, not the second one. And you will have earned the respect of your staff.

[GeoPoto]

All valid generalizations have exceptions, and, as in Aaron's case, no good deed goes unpunished.

[MikeGarcia]

..Here's a card or two:

[Eric72]

Originally Posted by Snowman

Charlie sits down in your restaurant and orders a ribeye steak, cooked medium rare. Four minutes later, he starts barking at the waitress, asking what's taking so long. She apologizes and says she will check on it for him. On her way back to the kitchen, she stops at another table to grab their credit card and just as she's beginning to ask how everything was, she gets interrupted by Charlie. Charlie doesn't like his fork. He says it looks dull. He was expecting a shinier fork. The waitress apologizes to the other table and brings Charlie a new set of silverware. As she walks away, you overhear Charlie complaining to the other guests about how slow the service is and how the steakhouse across the street is so much better. Four minutes later, his steak is ready. You grab it from the kitchen and deliver it yourself. You note the steam rising from the plate and say, "careful, the plate is hot" as you set it down in front of him. One minute later, Charlie complains that his knife is dull. As the waitress hands him a new knife, he drops the old one on the floor. He then proceeds to make a sexually inappropriate comment to her as she bends over to pick it up. A few minutes later, Charlie again interrupts the waitress as she's taking an order at another table. He wants to speak to the manager. You walk over and he complains that his steak is cold (after eating 3/4 of it). You offer to reheat it for him, but he declines and starts berating you in front of the other customers. He says he's not paying for his food. You decide that Charlie is just having a bad day, so you comp his meal and apologize. You invite him to come back and to give you another try. "The customer is always right."

Two days later, Charlie returns. But Charlie is still Charlie, and he pulls the same routine with another waitress. This time, she's in tears. You have to take over her section for her while she goes outside for some fresh air and to calm her nerves. Fast forward to the check... Charlie again asks for a comp. His steak is again 3/4 eaten. Today, he just didn't like it. It wasn't cooked right. He asked for medium rare and he "didn't get it" (the steak is clearly pink).

You have 3 choices.

1) You apologize and again comp Charlie's meal. The customer is always right.

2) You tell Charlie that you're sorry, but you cannot comp his meal today and that he should have complained before the steak was nearly finished if he had a problem with it.

3) You tell Charlie the scumbag to go f* himself and that he is no longer welcome at your restaurant.

If you chose option #1, you're an idiot, and it's going to end up costing you your business. If you chose option #2, then you have come to the realization that in fact no, the customer is not always right. But you made a mistake by not 86ing Charlie from the premises. And, if like me, you would have chosen option #3, then it's a moot point because Charlie's ass would have been kicked out on the first visit, not the second one. And you will have earned the respect of your staff.

Charlie,

You have an interesting way with people. I hope you find a steak house that suits your particular needs.

Have a wonderful day, Charlie. Happy collecting.

Very truly yours,

Eric

[G1911]

A buyer or a seller is not automatically correct by virtue of simply existing, as should be obvious to any rational person.

A buyer who makes public false statements and claims about a business and sends them hostile and insulting emails will be seen by most businesses as not worth dealing with. It's a loss for the business, and it's improper for them to make their employees put up with it.

The buyer and the seller have equal obligations to conduct themselves in a vaguely proper way.

[savedfrommyspokes]

For me, this is simple. If I err, the customer is always right. If the customer errs, they are not wrong, but human. However, if a customer's single err evolves into a pattern of disruptive errs, I cease doing business with them. Dealing with a pattern of un-desirable behavior is time consuming and counterproductive. I feel that I am better able to use that time to grow my business versus dealing with that type of behavior. And am I worried about this type of person bad-mouthing my business....no, because if they behave this way towards me, they likely won't know too many people who will listen to them anyway.

Life is too short for tolerating un-desirable behavior.

Bottom line, a customer is NOT always right.

[Leon]

+1 well put

Originally Posted by savedfrommyspokes

For me, this is simple. If I err, the customer is always right. If the customer errs, they are not wrong, but human. However, if a customer's single err evolves into a pattern of disruptive errs, I cease doing business with them. Dealing with a pattern of un-desirable behavior is time consuming and counterproductive. I feel that I am better able to use that time to grow my business versus dealing with that type of behavior. And am I worried about this type of person bad-mouthing my business....no, because if they behave this way towards me, they likely won't know too many people who will listen to them anyway.

Life is too short for tolerating un-desirable behavior.

Bottom line, a customer is NOT always right.

[babraham]

Originally Posted by G1911

The buyer and the seller have equal obligations to conduct themselves in a vaguely proper way.

Agreed.

[Snapolit1]

Have always hated the expression "the customer is always right." I usually correct it as "the customer is always right, except when he is an asshole."

No comment on present situation, which I haven't even trtied to follow.


QUOTE=G1911;2397514]A buyer or a seller is not automatically correct by virtue of simply existing, as should be obvious to any rational person.

A buyer who makes public false statements and claims about a business and sends them hostile and insulting emails will be seen by most businesses as not worth dealing with. It's a loss for the business, and it's improper for them to make their employees put up with it.

The buyer and the seller have equal obligations to conduct themselves in a vaguely proper way.[/QUOTE]