1948 Leaf Satchel Paige (Real or Fake)

mannequin1 · #1 10-08-2023, 05:42 PM

I'm pretty sure it's a woman, although a man may be behind it.

JustinD · #2 10-09-2023, 10:04 AM

Really I think they have no idea how eBay now works as I hope that CSG (even though I don't like them) better catch all of this crapola and refund funds. A better message to the seller would be explaining that each and every one of these is not going to the buyer and they will be paying it back. So they are essentially wasting their time completely.

I think we will start seeing less of this and more lower value fakes to slide under the review window end prices.

Snowman · #3 10-09-2023, 05:04 PM

This is not a good fake, yet somehow it seems as though it may still be able to fool even a few Net54 collectors. I collect 48 Leaf, and I have the Paige. Once you handle the real thing enough, it's easy to spot a fake. This card stock isn't even close, and the printing methodology is wrong. But this is a prime example of why the hobby needs TPGs. Someone would be getting scammed with this card 25 years ago. Nobody is getting scammed by it today because of grading.

Peter_Spaeth · #4 10-09-2023, 05:29 PM

One of the BODA guys tells me the reprints of many of these are available on Etsy for a couple of bucks.

JeremyW · #5 10-09-2023, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Snowman

This is not a good fake, yet somehow it seems as though it may still be able to fool even a few Net54 collectors. I collect 48 Leaf, and I have the Paige. Once you handle the real thing enough, it's easy to spot a fake. This card stock isn't even close, and the printing methodology is wrong. But this is a prime example of why the hobby needs TPGs. Someone would be getting scammed with this card 25 years ago. Nobody is getting scammed by it today because of grading.

This unfortunate person will be saved by Ebay. How many ungraded/raw '48 Leaf Paiges have you handled ?Just curious?

Snowman · #6 10-09-2023, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by JeremyW

This unfortunate person will be saved by Ebay. How many ungraded/raw '48 Leaf Paiges have you handled ?Just curious?

Raw 48 Leafs? Hundreds, at least. Raw 48 Leaf Paiges? Zero. Mine is slabbed and has been since I purchased it.

bobbyw8469 · #7 10-10-2023, 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Snowman

Raw 48 Leafs? Hundreds, at least. Raw 48 Leaf Paiges? Zero. Mine is slabbed and has been since I purchased it.

I bought one on Ebay a long time ago from the Hardcore Pawn people. It was raw. I got it in hand. Looked real to me. Not artificially aged liked this one. Came back fake.

perezfan · #8 10-10-2023, 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snowman

This is not a good fake, yet somehow it seems as though it may still be able to fool even a few Net54 collectors. I collect 48 Leaf, and I have the Paige. Once you handle the real thing enough, it's easy to spot a fake. This card stock isn't even close, and the printing methodology is wrong. But this is a prime example of why the hobby needs TPGs. Someone would be getting scammed with this card 25 years ago. Nobody is getting scammed by it today because of grading.

Are we sure about this? I seem to recall a perforated Connie Mack Cracker Jack card that was a much more obvious fake than this, residing in a numbered PSA Slab.

Just sayin'

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