1948 Leaf Satchel Paige (Real or Fake)

[mannequin1]

RESPONSE FROM THE EBAY SELLER TO ME AFTER i QUESTIONED THEM: If you read the description its really pretty self explanatory. I never said that they are 100% legit, I stated that they looked great to me, which they do. I can tell you beyond a shadow of doubt that I haven't touched them in any way shape or form. How you see them is exactly how I bought them. Quite honestly, I decided to put them up for sale because there is no way I could afford to get them graded if they end up being original, which I think they will. To be fair, being I'm not 100% sure I'm going to sell them all as reprints. If you read the description it explains everything that I know about the cards. Other than what I stated I cant tell you anything else. If you would like to bid feel free , if you would rather not, then don't. No hard feelings here either way. Like I also stated, you be the judge... I can only go by what I have been told by the person who sold the to me. Please re read the description & you'll see I was quite clear with my thoughts.. Have a great weekend & take care, B

[calvindog]

Originally Posted by mannequin1

If you read the description its really pretty self explanatory. I never said that they are 100% legit, I stated that they looked great to me, which they do. I can tell you beyond a shadow of doubt that I haven't touched them in any way shape or form. How you see them is exactly how I bought them. Quite honestly, I decided to put them up for sale because there is no way I could afford to get them graded if they end up being original, which I think they will. To be fair, being I'm not 100% sure I'm going to sell them all as reprints. If you read the description it explains everything that I know about the cards. Other than what I stated I cant tell you anything else. If you would like to bid feel free , if you would rather not, then don't. No hard feelings here either way. Like I also stated, you be the judge... I can only go by what I have been told by the person who sold the to me. Please re read the description & you'll see I was quite clear with my thoughts.. Have a great weekend & take care, B

Exactly. You do not need to even look at the card to know it’s fake. It has to be fake just from the description.

[mannequin1]

Originally Posted by calvindog

Exactly. You do not need to even look at the card to know it’s fake. It has to be fake just from the description.

And what about the T205 Cobb and the other trimmed cards?

[calvindog]

Gee, that's a tough one.

[Lucas00]

Originally Posted by mannequin1

If you read the description its really pretty self explanatory. I never said that they are 100% legit, I stated that they looked great to me, which they do. I can tell you beyond a shadow of doubt that I haven't touched them in any way shape or form. How you see them is exactly how I bought them. Quite honestly, I decided to put them up for sale because there is no way I could afford to get them graded if they end up being original, which I think they will. To be fair, being I'm not 100% sure I'm going to sell them all as reprints. If you read the description it explains everything that I know about the cards. Other than what I stated I cant tell you anything else. If you would like to bid feel free , if you would rather not, then don't. No hard feelings here either way. Like I also stated, you be the judge... I can only go by what I have been told by the person who sold the to me. Please re read the description & you'll see I was quite clear with my thoughts.. Have a great weekend & take care, B

Just deleting this to not bring any extra confusion 😃.

[mannequin1]

Originally Posted by Lucas00

After reading this thread and now knowing beyond a shadow of a doubt these are fakes why would you comment this and not take them down? You did the literal opposite of what you should've. Instead of removing them and saying sorry I didn't know, you basically came in promoting them saying bid away guys! Who knows, you might get a deal!

You know they're fake and damn well know if they had even a 1% chance of being real you would send them to psa or sgc. Shame on you. "Can't afford it" classic bs. Of course you can't, they're fake and you would rather them not charge you just to say these are all reproduced. And instead try to slip one by ebay on the off chance an authenticator is half asleep.

The above comment is the message that "I" RECEIVED BACK FROM THE EBAY SELLER.

[calvindog]

All of his shit is fake.

[mannequin1]

I'm pretty sure it's a woman, although a man may be behind it.

[JustinD]

Really I think they have no idea how eBay now works as I hope that CSG (even though I don't like them) better catch all of this crapola and refund funds. A better message to the seller would be explaining that each and every one of these is not going to the buyer and they will be paying it back. So they are essentially wasting their time completely.

I think we will start seeing less of this and more lower value fakes to slide under the review window end prices.

[Snowman]

This is not a good fake, yet somehow it seems as though it may still be able to fool even a few Net54 collectors. I collect 48 Leaf, and I have the Paige. Once you handle the real thing enough, it's easy to spot a fake. This card stock isn't even close, and the printing methodology is wrong. But this is a prime example of why the hobby needs TPGs. Someone would be getting scammed with this card 25 years ago. Nobody is getting scammed by it today because of grading.

[Lucas00]

Originally Posted by mannequin1

The above comment is the message that "I" RECEIVED BACK FROM THE EBAY SELLER.

LOL you definitely should've mentioned that crucial bit of info. As you wrote it in first person. Apologies in any case.