The Authenticator Strikes Again

[Jay Wolt]

Here's an easy solution, go to the Post Office & rent a P.O. Box
& have your ebay purchases sent there & the authenticating service
is void & you get your card w/o delay.

[Popcorn]

Originally Posted by Jay Wolt

Here's an easy solution, go to the Post Office & rent a P.O. Box
& have your ebay purchases sent there & the authenticating service
is void & you get your card w/o delay.

Not for long. They are working on adding P.O. Boxes to the AG program.

I just had a 14’ cj returned that was probably vg-ex because the seller stated that it was near mint. I asked them to sell it to me through PayPal and they agreed. Also sent eBay a message asking them in the future to please contact me before return any purchases.

[Beercan collector]

I had a PSA card rejected for a scratch ,
( Arenado card ) .. I wanted it anyway but was not given that option

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Jay Wolt

Here's an easy solution, go to the Post Office & rent a P.O. Box
& have your ebay purchases sent there & the authenticating service
is void & you get your card w/o delay.

What's the logic there?

[Yoda]

If the card don't fit, you must acquit.

[Jay Wolt]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

What's the logic there?

Logic being, I don't have to worry about the ebay authenticity program when I buy.
No delay, I get the card a couple days after I pay & I can determine if the card is legit.
I also deal w/ many repeat sellers w/ ample feedback, so I've never had a problem.

Granted when I sell a card in excess of $250, I must send it to PSA for verification before the buyer receives it.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Jay Wolt

Logic being, I don't have to worry about the ebay authenticity program when I buy.
No delay, I get the card a couple days after I pay & I can determine if the card is legit.
I also deal w/ many repeat sellers w/ ample feedback, so I've never had a problem.

Granted when I sell a card in excess of $250, I must send it to PSA for verification before the buyer receives it.

I mean why would ebay exclude buyers with PO Boxes.

[Popcorn]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

I mean why would ebay exclude buyers with PO Boxes.

Reason I was giving is because what shipping service the seller uses—> eBay AG continues that same service to the buyer after inspection. If a seller uses fedex they can’t add a usps number to it for a P.O. Box. But he said soon they will be able too.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Popcorn

Reason I was giving is because what shipping service the seller uses—> eBay AG continues that same service to the buyer after inspection. If a seller uses fedex they can’t add a usps number to it for a P.O. Box. But he said soon they will be able too.

How many ebay sellers use fed ex? Tiny percentage in my experience.

[JeremyW]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

How many ebay sellers use fed ex? Tiny percentage in my experience.

At a certain value, Ebay/PSA/CSA use fedex to ship the cards after they've been "autheniticated."

[Lorewalker]

Originally Posted by Popcorn

Reason I was giving is because what shipping service the seller uses—> eBay AG continues that same service to the buyer after inspection. If a seller uses fedex they can’t add a usps number to it for a P.O. Box. But he said soon they will be able too.

Has nothing to do with the seller's method of shipping. The seller is not shipping to the buyer. PSA has a huge discount for volume with Fed Ex as well as lower insurance rates if using Fed Ex and Fed Ex does not do traditional Post Office Boxes.

[Popcorn]

Originally Posted by Lorewalker

Has nothing to do with the seller's method of shipping. The seller is not shipping to the buyer. PSA has a huge discount for volume with Fed Ex as well as lower insurance rates if using Fed Ex and Fed Ex does not do traditional Post Office Boxes.

Had a long fire side chat with eBay and this was their reasoning. If a seller uses fedex, dhl, ups ect first they can’t authenticate it and send it to a P.O. Box. after. They have to use the same service the seller started with.

Trust me I want to go back to my P.O. Box because my local post doesn’t do signature half the time and will leave expensive cards in my mail box. I’d rather have it sit at the post than in my mail box.

[Jay Wolt]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

I mean why would ebay exclude buyers with PO Boxes.

Have no idea what they are thinking & yes it makes no sense

[G1911]

Originally Posted by Jay Wolt

Here's an easy solution, go to the Post Office & rent a P.O. Box
& have your ebay purchases sent there & the authenticating service
is void & you get your card w/o delay.

Looks like an 11x11 P.O. box will cost me $516 for 12 months using the USPS website.

Doesn't having to pay $500 to the government to have a temporary workaround to drive to because a 3rd party company is killing a deal that follows the rules of the platform it was agreed to upon and for which the buyer and seller are both actively consenting and choosing to do of their own free will seem absolutely ridiculous? Or does this make sense to some people?

[packs]

I bought a factory certified auto from a seller and eBay then cancelled the sale and refunded me because the card wasn't "authentic". It was a 2022 Bowman Draft certified auto insert. Not sure what was wrong with it but I was equally surprised.

[RL]

PSA is not supposed to check for scratches..


below is copy and paste from ebay


The seller ships your card to the authentication facility, where ungraded cards are inspected by CGC Cards™, and graded cards have their case and label authenticated by a PSA authenticator. No regrading is performed.

[Jay Wolt]

Originally Posted by G1911

Looks like an 11x11 P.O. box will cost me $516 for 12 months using the USPS website.

Greg I pay less then a 1/3 of that
Granted I have a smaller box & I live in the sticks

[G1911]

Originally Posted by Jay Wolt

Greg I pay less then a 1/3 of that
Granted I have a smaller box & I live in the sticks

My zip:

[Lobo Aullando]

That size is usually for a business that's getting some volume. Individuals usually get one of the smaller sizes. There are lockers for large parcels that don't fit.

Originally Posted by G1911

My zip:

[Centauri]

I had to LOL at the original poster claiming his *slabs* would grade in the top 10%. How soon until we are trading a T206 Cobb bat off, card graded a PSA 4, slab graded a SGA 9 (SGA = Slab Graders of America).

[Popcorn]

Is anyone else waiting on orders to be authenticated? Had two cards delivered both on Monday the 18th still being processed.

[JeremyW]

I'm a fan of the Ebay authentication deal. That being said, PSA should not be rejecting scratched slabs of any TPG. Frosted edges maybe, but not scratches.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Centauri

I had to LOL at the original poster claiming his *slabs* would grade in the top 10%. How soon until we are trading a T206 Cobb bat off, card graded a PSA 4, slab graded a SGA 9 (SGA = Slab Graders of America).

LOL but it's a real thing given how beat up SGC slabs, or at least the older generations, become with routine handling. PSA I can usually clean up, if needed, with Novus 2. Doesn't work nearly so well on SGC. Scratches, scuffs, clouding, little cracks that reflect light, routine for the older SGC slabs in my experience.

[G1911]

Originally Posted by Lobo Aullando

That size is usually for a business that's getting some volume. Individuals usually get one of the smaller sizes. There are lockers for large parcels that don't fit.

You guys pick the size, I’ll provide evidence of the price, and I’ll repost the exact same original statement with but the new price value and maybe then some once can explain how this makes any sense.