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Old 09-20-2023, 06:56 PM
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Are the ones with the muddied/less detailed graphics remakes? They sure look cheaper, and the stiff bunched up "felt" looks post-1970.

I know the Polo Grounds one is a remake... I'm asking about the orange ones with the people worshipping at the feet of the "Giant".
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Old 09-20-2023, 08:19 PM
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Good question, Mark. Seems to me like that Giants pennant was made for years. Maybe the poorest made ones were just at the end of the line? Some do seem post MLB licensure, so not sure whether Adflag just keep making them anyway, or if some bootleg operation started making them.

Here is the orange version of the Astros (also rather rare), with similar quality issues. Also Adflag (if I remember correctly). So that makes me wonder if there was some bootleg maker out there with an affinity for Adflag designs? Or they just ended up with the screens? Or ???
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Old 09-21-2023, 12:25 PM
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Are the ones with the muddied/less detailed graphics remakes? They sure look cheaper, and the stiff bunched up "felt" looks post-1970.

I know the Polo Grounds one is a remake... I'm asking about the orange ones with the people worshiping at the feet of the "Giant".
Since we have no oversized 1910's pennants to talk about, let's discuss these stiff orange things a little more..

First of all, is the original "crowd at feet" Giants pennant AdFlag? It kind of seems that way, but Kyle does not show it in his blog. I actually kind of like this pennant, with the adoring crowd of men, women and a kid. All it's missing is a dog! Kyle does show Marc's Astos pennant as being AdFlag.

Now, for the stiff orange things.. besides the orange "crowd at feet" and New York Giants "Giant in the Polo Grounds," there's also this one. It's a remake of a non-AdFlag (Trench?). This one is available for the bargain price of $99.99. These three are, obviouly, all Giants. Were they done with other teams/designs? I don't think AdFlag did them because Kyle says AdFlag was out of the sports pennant business in the mid 60s. These seem later.

Speaking of Kyle...I'm jonesing for some new content on Pennant Fever. I know he's busy but he teased an article on AMCO(?).
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Now, for the stiff orange things.. besides the orange "crowd at feet" and New York Giants "Giant in the Polo Grounds," there's also this one. It's a remake of a non-AdFlag (Trench?). This one is available for the bargain price of $99.99. These three are, obviouly, all Giants. Were they done with other teams/designs?
Maybe Marc;s Astros pennant answers my question. But his has the graphics in blue paint. The Giants are all heavy black paint. BTW, here's the original Giants:
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Changing topic a bit, I saw this Tigers pennant listed. I've seen this pennant with white accents on the tiger and the lettering. Anyone seen a plain variation like this before?
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Changing topic a bit, I saw this Tigers pennant listed. I've seen this pennant with white accents on the tiger and the lettering. Anyone seen a plain variation like this before?
I've only seen this version one other time come up for sale. The ebay seller of this pennant has some nice Tiger pennants but they are overpriced IMO.
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I've only seen this version one other time come up for sale. The ebay seller of this pennant has some nice Tiger pennants but they are overpriced IMO.
What do you mean?? He's only built a $1,200.00 profit into that one!
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Need help from the cleaning experts on this one. Picked up this 74 team pennant the other day. Been cleaning with water / bleach mixture and so far its done pretty good at getting the brown out. Issue I have is the photo was so bad I had to cut it out and there are some stains that just won't go away. I've tried using retro clean on the stains with no luck. Before I go to just straight bleach does anyone else have a suggestion. I only paid $25 for it so if I ruin it I wont be heart broken.
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Since we have no oversized 1910's pennants to talk about, let's discuss these stiff orange things a little more..

First of all, is the original "crowd at feet" Giants pennant AdFlag? It kind of seems that way, but Kyle does not show it in his blog. I actually kind of like this pennant, with the adoring crowd of men, women and a kid. All it's missing is a dog! Kyle does show Marc's Astos pennant as being AdFlag.

Now, for the stiff orange things.. besides the orange "crowd at feet" and New York Giants "Giant in the Polo Grounds," there's also this one. It's a remake of a non-AdFlag (Trench?). This one is available for the bargain price of $99.99. These three are, obviouly, all Giants. Were they done with other teams/designs? I don't think AdFlag did them because Kyle says AdFlag was out of the sports pennant business in the mid 60s. These seem later.

Speaking of Kyle...I'm jonesing for some new content on Pennant Fever. I know he's busy but he teased an article on AMCO(?).
The tiny fans worshiping the Giant pennant looks like ADFLAG's work, to me.

Those two repros you showed--originally done in the 1950s by Trench--were released around 1980 by ... Trench, best I can tell. They remade a few of their 1950s-era designs, and these repros were sold for a few years. Later versions of the repro will be framed in white, because they were printed on white felt.

New content posted on Pennant Factory just this month. New piece being written, as we speak, for Pennant Fever due out in a few weeks.
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New content posted on Pennant Factory just this month. New piece being written, as we speak, for Pennant Fever due out in a few weeks.
Wow! I’m way behind on your recreations! That will give me something to read while I wait for your next pennantfever blog.

It’s a shame I hate all “your” teams.
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