Wander Franco...

[packs]

If it comes out that these rumors are only rumors I don't see it staining Franco long term. Especially if he continues to produce when he's back. Otherwise, any substantiation of the rumors will cost him his career.

He isn't at a point in his career where he can be compared to Kobe Bryant or Mike Tyson or anyone else like that. Even Jerry Seinfeld has managed to make people forget he dated a 17 year old high school senior while he was 39 years old.

[G1911]

Originally Posted by packs

If it comes out that these rumors are only rumors I don't see it staining Franco long term. Especially if he continues to produce when he's back. Otherwise, any substantiation of the rumors will cost him his career.

He isn't at a point in his career where he can be compared to Kobe Bryant or Mike Tyson or anyone else like that. Even Jerry Seinfeld has managed to make people forget he dated a 17 year old high school senior while he was 39 years old.

It's the post-factual world, the narrative is set. Bauer's case turned into not only a not guilty, but the accusers own phone proved that he was completely innocent and she lied. It doesn't matter. He's still kicked out of the league, dumped on, and half+ don't care whatsoever because the idea he is guilty is more comeaptivel with their desire and worldview. Once the media has him labelled a pedo, nothing will exonerate his reputation. He could be the most innocent man on Earth but it wouldn't matter.

Kobe, Tyson, Seinfeld are from a different time.

[packs]

Bauer I don’t think is an apt comparison only because he admitted to the activities described just not that they weren’t consensual. I think his banishment has a lot to do with public opinions about his interests. Whether that’s appropriate or not is up for debate. But I’m not sure there’s much in common.

[Peter_Spaeth]

For better or worse, even best case, I think it's also going to be more difficult for a guy who (as I understand it) speaks limited English and will be perceived by many people as foreign to resurrect himself with the American public. Kobe, Tyson, Seinfeld were iconic figures. Not so a Spanish-speaking guy from the Dominican.

[packs]

It’s baseball though and he is one of the most exciting players in the game and seen as a generational talent. If he is fully exonerated I don’t know what people would hold on to after he’s exonerated.

If he did do something illegal then I think he can look at Luke Heimlich and see his future in baseball.

[G1911]

I will sell Wander’s for only 50% of their value one month ago to those who see a redemption story. Submit your wantlists

[packs]

You have to do something wrong to redeem yourself though. If this turns out to be a made up story for a money grab or simply the rumor it's described as, I'm not so sure his career is over or that fans won't welcome him back.

[G1911]

Originally Posted by packs

You have to do something wrong to redeem yourself though. If this turns out to be a made up story for a money grab or simply the rumor it's described as, I'm not so sure his career is over or that fans won't welcome him back.

You have a greater faith in people's ability to choose to deal with actual facts and evidence rather than narratives than I do. We shall see what happens here.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by G1911

I will sell Wander’s for only 50% of their value one month ago to those who see a redemption story. Submit your wantlists

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[G1911]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Anyone want a gem mint Atomic Refractor "true" rookie?

Best I can do is a peso