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Old 08-18-2023, 12:58 PM
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Default Understandable delay (at this point)
Yes, I am in the same boat with my national submissions of 40 cards. I woould expect some movement soon.
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Old 08-18-2023, 01:07 PM
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Old 08-18-2023, 01:09 PM
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Patience used to be a virtue, no?
I guess that's the whole point of submitting to SGC - patience is optional.

I'm still waiting on my PSA submission from early May. It's currently at the "grading" stage. I'm guessing I've got 2-3 months left.
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Old 08-18-2023, 01:12 PM
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I guess. The point certainly isn't to get an accurate grade.
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Hmmm... I think I've been pretty darn patient. SGC offer a service and they market it as a 5 to 10 day turnaround. It's now been between 2x and 4x longer than the service they're marketing.

I've sent polite enquiries and I've been for the last 2 weeks that my order should be graded the week following. This hasn't been the case. At the same time, others have had their submissions received after mind but craded ahead of mine.

Today I was told that my "submission is waiting to be graded." That's neither helpful nor transparent. I'm pretty sure that all submissions are waiting to be graded. That doesn't fill me with confidence. I'm happy to give more time, but I do expect to receive clarity about where I am in the queue and a reasonablely accurate ETA.
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Old 08-18-2023, 01:50 PM
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Hmmm... I think I've been pretty darn patient. SGC offer a service and they market it as a 5 to 10 day turnaround. It's now been between 2x and 4x longer than the service they're marketing.

I've sent polite enquiries and I've been for the last 2 weeks that my order should be graded the week following. This hasn't been the case. At the same time, others have had their submissions received after mind but craded ahead of mine.

Today I was told that my "submission is waiting to be graded." That's neither helpful nor transparent. I'm pretty sure that all submissions are waiting to be graded. That doesn't fill me with confidence. I'm happy to give more time, but I do expect to receive clarity about where I am in the queue and a reasonablely accurate ETA.
That sounds like their response a few months back about some altered card that was called out that they would take whatever action was determined to be needed. The art of the truism.
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That sounds like their response a few months back about some altered card that was called out that they would take whatever action was determined to be needed. The art of the truism.
I think I'm going to start using that.... "can you take out the trash, dear?"

"I will take whatever action is determined to be needed"
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I think I'm going to start using that.... "can you take out the trash, dear?"

"I will take whatever action is determined to be needed"
Completely circular and meaningless, but it made it sound like they were being responsive. A politician could not have done it better. By the way, no action was ever taken, but that's OK, because people just move on.
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I think I'm going to start using that.... "can you take out the trash, dear?"

"I will take whatever action is determined to be needed"
I'd love to hear how well that works for you!
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Patience used to be a virtue, no?
And good things are worth waiting for...cept in the case of your Senna card. Wrinkle? Bend? Residue on the back? Screams 9 or 10. Perfect reason to not submit to SGC. See so much of that over the last 18 months or so.

As has been chatted about, PSA and SGC seem to be in a pissing contest over who can screw the submitter deeper. Then you look at stuff that we know was submitting by auction houses and the cards are graded more in line with acceptable standards. Swear these guys grade on a 1 to 5 scale for the common man when it comes to vintage.
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And good things are worth waiting for...cept in the case of your Senna card. Wrinkle? Bend? Residue on the back? Screams 9 or 10. Perfect reason to not submit to SGC. See so much of that over the last 18 months or so.

As has been chatted about, PSA and SGC seem to be in a pissing contest over who can screw the submitter deeper. Then you look at stuff that we know was submitting by auction houses and the cards are graded more in line with acceptable standards. Swear these guys grade on a 1 to 5 scale for the common man when it comes to vintage.
Chase, no wrinkle or bend and the back is perfectly clean. Indeed, funny you mention it but PSA also pissed on this card, but at least they gave it a 6 which at least conclusively rules out the wrinkle or bend possibility. IMO the kiddie graders they have hired see mostly perfect ultramodern and have no clue how to grade vintage. My whole SGC sub was badly undergraded.
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Chase, no wrinkle or bend and the back is perfectly clean. Indeed, funny you mention it but PSA also pissed on this card, but at least they gave it a 6 which at least conclusively rules out the wrinkle or bend possibility. IMO the kiddie graders they have hired see mostly perfect ultramodern and have no clue how to grade vintage. My whole SGC sub was badly undergraded.
A 6 is even pathetic and I agree with the theory. 90% or more of what both companies are seeing has to be new stuff. They do not see it as an issue because cards keep coming in. It really needs to be addressed. This is where the human element in grading gets clouded--frame of reference.
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