Best team with no HOFers or HOF caliber players?

[cgjackson222]

Originally Posted by orioles70

I am not a Giants fan and I am not saying Buster Posey is a shoe-in HoFer...but he was NL Rookie of the Year and a NL MVP...he was a World Series Champ 3 times in his first 5 full seasons...he was a catcher with a lifetime batting average above .300 and he even won a NL batting title...even though his career was not lengthy (less than 1,400 games), his WAR (yes, I know...what is it good for) is the 7th best All-Time as a catcher and better than many catchers that are in the Hall with longer careers...if anybody from those Giants teams from 2010-2014 is deserving it is Posey.

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Question: What WAR numbers are you looking at? I am looking at career WAR numbers for catchers, and Posey ranks 16th, just behind Wally Schang, Gene Tenace, and Thurman Munson. That being said, any of those guys could get in some day, but I think Munson may have the best shot, do to his untimely death.

Posey and Munson have similar credentials. Both were 7x All Stars, both won Rookie of the year, both won MVP. Posey won 3 World Series, to Munsey's 2. Munsey was probably the better fielder, and won 3 Gold Gloves, to Posey's 1.

[D. Bergin]

Originally Posted by cgjackson222

Question: What WAR numbers are you looking at? I am looking at career WAR numbers for catchers, and Posey ranks 16th, just behind Wally Schang, Gene Tenace, and Thurman Munson. That being said, any of those guys could get in some day, but I think Munson may have the best shot, do to his untimely death.

Posey and Munson have similar credentials. Both were 7x All Stars, both won Rookie of the year, both won MVP. Posey won 3 World Series, to Munsey's 2. Munsey was probably the better fielder, and won 3 Gold Gloves, to Posey's 1.

Maybe he was looking at best 7 years stretch, in which Posey ranks comfortably above the HOF catchers average in WAR.

Munson's a good comparison, who also does well in the prime years ratings. Minus a couple MVP's, Campanella's MLB career could also be argued to be a decent comparison to Posey.

Even with 3 MVP's and a strong Negro League background, it took Campanella at least 5 tries to get into the HOF.

Catching is tough!

My first instinct was that Posey was a no-brainer for the HOF. Might not be as cut and dry as I thought, re-looking back at his total career stats.

[cgjackson222]

Originally Posted by D. Bergin

Maybe he was looking at best 7 years stretch, in which Posey ranks comfortably above the HOF catchers average in WAR.

Munson's a good comparison, who also does well in the prime years ratings. Minus a couple MVP's, Campanella's MLB career could also be argued to be a decent comparison to Posey.

Even with 3 MVP's and a strong Negro League background, it took Campanella at least 5 tries to get into the HOF.

Catching is tough!

My first instinct was that Posey was a no-brainer for the HOF. Might not be as cut and dry as I thought, re-looking back at his total career stats.

Posey ranks 10th in WAR7. Munson 8th.

I see them both getting in.....Eventually