Hey, pennant guys

[WillowGrove]

Just taking some time on this Sunday morning to finally post my three-pennant collection in this great thread. (yeah I was lucky enough to win the Yankees one in the recent REA).

Someday when I have more free time I want to drill down and see if I can find some answers like - when they were sold at the ballpark, who made some of the gorgeous oversized pennants, how many were typically even made, etc etc. If answers exist somewhere already and I've missed it, please point me towards them.

Thanks guys.

ETA: Sorry for the huge photo.

[ooo-ribay]

Beautiful stuff, Peter! You can join the rest of us, chasing those mysteries.

P.S. you will find a lot of answers at Domer’s blog, pennantfever.weebly.com

[perezfan]

Looks breath-taking Peter! Congrats on nailing that one down... not many (if any) other oversized Yankees Pennants are known to have survived.

Awesome graphics and great framing job... just stellar. But unfortunately, the mysteries of these things still outweigh what we think we know about them!

[WillowGrove]

Originally Posted by ooo-ribay

Beautiful stuff, Peter! You can join the rest of us, chasing those mysteries.

P.S. you will find a lot of answers at Domer’s blog, pennantfever.weebly.com

Hey thanks for the comments guys! Really appreciate it.

And Rob, I look forward to reviewing that blog. At first I saw info about their specific company and the newer pennants but I see there is good stuff to read about older pennants. Good reading for the plane to Chicago! Thanks again!

[thetahat]

So the beautiful Collegiate 3D Dodgers pennant just sold for a good price on Heritage. Looks flawless except for three tiny uniform holes. I think there was once something attached to his left hand, vaguely remember seeing something. No image searches show it however. It also looks like the bum was drawn as if he’s meant to be holding something. The Heritage pennant shows two neat holes on opposite sides of his hand, identical to the single hole by the knapsack where I think it was once pinned down. I asked Heritage about the two holes during the auction and they added that to the description without elaborating. Some pics of others don’t show the holes at all.

So I was wondering if anyone has info about this. I own the 3D Giants and the Yankees and both have more 3D parts to them, the Dodgers just has the bat and knapsack.

[Domer05]

Originally Posted by thetahat

So the beautiful Collegiate 3D Dodgers pennant just sold for a good price on Heritage. Looks flawless except for three tiny uniform holes. I think there was once something attached to his left hand, vaguely remember seeing something. No image searches show it however. It also looks like the bum was drawn as if he’s meant to be holding something. The Heritage pennant shows two neat holes on opposite sides of his hand, identical to the single hole by the knapsack where I think it was once pinned down. I asked Heritage about the two holes during the auction and they added that to the description without elaborating. Some pics of others don’t show the holes at all.

So I was wondering if anyone has info about this. I own the 3D Giants and the Yankees and both have more 3D parts to them, the Dodgers just has the bat and knapsack.

Greg: As you know, I made a reproduction of this Dodgers 3-D pennant a few years ago over on Pennant Factory. For a variety of reasons, I had to draw the bum artwork free-hand, so I studied the artist's work in close detail. When I got to his outstretched left hand, I made the same observation....

Not because of any holes present; but, because of the way the artist drew the fingers. It's an odd pose ... almost like he should be clutching something that would hang below his hand? What else would belong in that hand? Maybe the handle of a plastic lantern ... but the lanterns never arrived on time?? (That actually wouldn't have looked too bad.)

Be that as it may, I don't think there was ever any intention by Collegiate of Ames of placing anything in this hand. I've never seen another of these with holes in those same spots. Since Collegiate used real wool, this pennant's holes were likely just made by a critter looking to feast on a 70/30 wool/rayon blend.

[perezfan]

Originally Posted by Domer05

Greg: As you know, I made a reproduction of this Dodgers 3-D pennant a few years ago over on Pennant Factory. For a variety of reasons, I had to draw the bum artwork free-hand, so I studied the artist's work in close detail. When I got to his outstretched left hand, I made the same observation....

Not because of any holes present; but, because of the way the artist drew the fingers. It's an odd pose ... almost like he should be clutching something that would hang below his hand? What else would belong in that hand? Maybe the handle of a plastic lantern ... but the lanterns never arrived on time?? (That actually wouldn't have looked too bad.)

Be that as it may, I don't think there was ever any intention by Collegiate of Ames of placing anything in this hand. I've never seen another of these with holes in those same spots. Since Collegiate used real wool, this pennant's holes were likely just made by a critter looking to feast on a 70/30 wool/rayon blend.

My first inclination was the exact same. But on closer inspection, I don't think it's a stretch to surmise the Bum was holding something in that left hand. Why else would the artist portray it in that awkward and unnatural position?

I don't know if there's any significance to the two tiny holes, but perhaps the Bum was meant to be holding a cigar or a bottle of booze. Willard Mullin often portrayed the famed Brooklyn Bum in that manner. And perhaps that feature never came to fruition or was scrapped because it might be deemed too controversial or inappropriate for kids. Just brainstorming since the positioning of the left hand bugs me as well.

[ooo-ribay]

Bottle of booze sounds very feasible.

[Huck]

Originally Posted by perezfan

My first inclination was the exact same. But on closer inspection, I don't think it's a stretch to surmise the Bum was holding something in that left hand. Why else would the artist portray it in that awkward and unnatural position?

I don't know if there's any significance to the two tiny holes, but perhaps the Bum was meant to be holding a cigar or a bottle of booze. Willard Mullin often portrayed the famed Brooklyn Bum in that manner. And perhaps that feature never came to fruition or was scrapped because it might be deemed too controversial or inappropriate for kids. Just brainstorming since the positioning of the left hand bugs me as well.

Below novice of a pennant collector. Saw this...

https://robertedwardauctions.com/auc...sional-pennant

[ooo-ribay]

Originally Posted by WillowGrove

Hey thanks for the comments guys! Really appreciate it.

And Rob, I look forward to reviewing that blog. At first I saw info about their specific company and the newer pennants but I see there is good stuff to read about older pennants. Good reading for the plane to Chicago! Thanks again!

The current front page - Salem - is not at all representative of the content. The Trench, WGN, AdFlag, etc. stuff is great!

[thetahat]

Originally Posted by WillowGrove

Just taking some time on this Sunday morning to finally post my three-pennant collection in this great thread. (yeah I was lucky enough to win the Yankees one in the recent REA).

Someday when I have more free time I want to drill down and see if I can find some answers like - when they were sold at the ballpark, who made some of the gorgeous oversized pennants, how many were typically even made, etc etc. If answers exist somewhere already and I've missed it, please point me towards them.

Thanks guys.

ETA: Sorry for the huge photo.

Great pennants! I second Mark’s comment about oversized Yankees. That is the only one I’ve ever seen in my life. And it’s in great condition. Congrats!

[Hankphenom]

Man, oh man, you guys are just killing it with these fab pennants! Your posts are just thrilling to see for a pennant guy like myself.

[Scott Garner]

Originally Posted by WillowGrove

Just taking some time on this Sunday morning to finally post my three-pennant collection in this great thread. (yeah I was lucky enough to win the Yankees one in the recent REA).

Someday when I have more free time I want to drill down and see if I can find some answers like - when they were sold at the ballpark, who made some of the gorgeous oversized pennants, how many were typically even made, etc etc. If answers exist somewhere already and I've missed it, please point me towards them.

Thanks guys.

ETA: Sorry for the huge photo.

Pete,
Awesome pennants!! Conrats on that trio of beauties!

[661fish]

Glad that Mark has his TSOG channel now. I am lobbying Greg and anyone else with a vast collection of pennants to do a channel as well. I have been trying to convince Greg and would encourage others to motivate him as well.

[thetahat]

Originally Posted by 661fish

Glad that Mark has his TSOG channel now. I am lobbying Greg and anyone else with a vast collection of pennants to do a channel as well. I have been trying to convince Greg and would encourage others to motivate him as well.

I don’t know man … I don’t think I could pull it off. Mark has set a very high bar in terms of quality. If his videos are Happy Days, then mine would be Joanie Loves Chachi …