N172 HOF Top 10 (new rankings)

[Schwertfeger1007]

Delahanty Bat Horizontal

Apparently I have the ultra rare DelEhanty (double E) version!!

[oldjudge]

I think Brian has most of the right poses with the exception of Delahanty --bat horizontal which I don't think belongs on the list:

1-Connor bat on L/shoulder--2
2- McGreachery (Deacon White portrait)-2
3- Hamilton-Philadelphia (His true rookie)-3
4-Wright looking L-3
5- One of the McPhee batting poses-3
6- Anson in Uniform-4/5

A few of the other White poses might make the list but I don't have a good enough feel for their pops. Joe might be able to hazard a better guess.

[insidethewrapper]

Jay: Is it McCreachery (per book) or McGreachery ?

[oldjudge]

I think it is McGreachery. If you look at the card (see REA archives) compare the letter in question to the G in Goodwin and the C in Company at the bottom of the card. It sure looks like the G to me, although they are very similar.

[Schwertfeger1007]

Jay-

The Wright looking left has 5 different graded sales on VCP (1 could be a reslab I suppose) where Delahanty only has 1 (GAI 1).

How many different Delahanty Bat Horizontals have you come across over the years? You've definitely seen more than me but I was only able to find the 1 public sale.

Also, I was asking about the top 10 poses specifically and not including team changes (ie Hamilton to PHI or any PL).

[oldjudge]

LOL, I guess that I answered a different question. My guess is that that VCP does not have the correct information. Do they have images of five different copies? I am a only aware of three copies of the rare Wright pose and two of those are not graded. I have owned a few copies of the Delahanty horizontal bat pose over the years and I know of a few others in other collections. If I had to guess, and it would be a guess, I would say there are about 5-10 around.
While it may not interest you, the fact that I know of only three copies of Hamilton-Philadelphia makes that card significant to me. A HOF rookie with only three copies is a major card, especially for a player like Hamilton.

[Schwertfeger1007]

It's interesting for sure. I was just looking for poses. I'm sure there are folks out there that care more about "Rookie" cards than me. I'd personally rather have an earlier image on a non-ML team.

BTW did some more sleuthing and found 6 different graded Harry Wright (Looking Left). With the raw ones you've referenced I'm wondering if this image is more common than originally thought (I believe it was even in the key rarities section in the OJ Bible)

[oldjudge]

That is not the rare pose. Look at the Old Judge book

[Baseball Rarities]

Originally Posted by oldjudge

3- Hamilton-Philadelphia (His true rookie)-3

Hey Jay - Why would this be considered his rookie card and not his earlier cards that picture him with the Kansas Citys?

[Schwertfeger1007]

DOH!!

You're right Jay my bad. We're up at our cabin for the week so I'm OJ Bibleless.

Kevin- I'm guessing he's going to say it's bc KC wasn't considered a ML team. I guess same would apply to Nichols Omaha vs when he finally showed up in Boston in 1890.

[Baseball Rarities]

Originally Posted by Schwertfeger1007

Kevin- I'm guessing he's going to say it's bc KC wasn't considered a ML team. I guess same would apply to Nichols Omaha vs when he finally showed up in Boston in 1890.

KC was in the American Association in 1888 and 1889, which has always been considered a Major League team AFAIK. Between 1884 and 1890, the Champions from the American Association would play against the Champions of the National League in an early version of the World Series.

Omaha was a Minor League team that was part of the Western Association.

[oldjudge]

Interesting point Kevin. I've always considered a rookie card to be the first NL or AL card, but if it is any major league then I guess the KC cards would count.

[Cmvorce]

Let me just say that as someone who has only begun to dabble in Old Judge’s (thanks again for that Tip O’Neill, Jay), just observing this conversation is invaluable to me. Love learning from the experts on this site.