SGG at the National - Onsite Grading?

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by raulus

If you will indulge me further, perhaps you could share why you feel the erstwhile guarantee would be meaningful, were it to be reinstated?

Unlike PSA where the horror stories are legion, I had never heard of SGC not honoring the "erstwhile" guarantee. And it was the middle third of the company's NAME for god's sake. So yeah trashing it was a big deal IMO.

[raulus]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Unlike PSA where the horror stories are legion, I had never heard of SGC not honoring the "erstwhile" guarantee. And it was the middle third of the company's NAME for god's sake. So yeah trashing it was a big deal IMO.

Gotcha. I wasn’t familiar with the backstory that SGC had historically honored the guarantee.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by raulus

Gotcha. I wasn’t familiar with the backstory that SGC had historically honored the guarantee.

Evidently they were concerned about all the altered cards being outed and wanted off the hook. Brazen move IMO, but with their loyal fanbase they rightly figured nobody would care.

[raulus]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Evidently they were concerned about all the altered cards being outed and wanted off the hook. Brazen move IMO, but with their loyal fanbase they rightly figured nobody would care.

Another rhetorical question not entirely intended to make your blood boil:

Is it better to eliminate a guarantee, or keep it and just decline to honor it?

I suppose those are the two outcomes we’ve seen, and it seems like the collective response has been a shrug, although some around here have noisily expressed their dissatisfaction with those outcomes.

[ClementeFanOh]

Another question, not rhetorical- wasn't the topic the "controversy" of SGC
not grading at the National? We've reached Groundhog Day status, folks.

Trent King

[raulus]

Originally Posted by ClementeFanOh

Another question, not rhetorical- wasn't the topic the "controversy" of SGC
not grading at the National? We've reached Groundhog Day status, folks.

Trent King

Embrace the journey, Trent!!

Just because we start complaining about one thing doesn’t mean that we should be constrained to narrowly limit our lamentations to within the confines of the original source of our bellyaching. We need room to roam and fully explore all of our avenues for dissatisfaction.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by raulus

Another rhetorical question not entirely intended to make your blood boil:

Is it better to eliminate a guarantee, or keep it and just decline to honor it?

I suppose those are the two outcomes we’ve seen, and it seems like the collective response has been a shrug, although some around here have noisily expressed their dissatisfaction with those outcomes.

Well, at least openly eliminating it has the virtue of candor, so i would say that's marginally better.

[Snowman]

Anyone who followed the BODA threads and who is tuned into the extent to which altered cards actually permeate this hobby should have been able to predict the dissolution of any guarantee program that any of the TPGs pretended to offer. Just add up the total value of their potential exposure and compare that against their valuations as companies. They don't really have a choice here if they wish to remain in business.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Snowman

Anyone who followed the BODA threads and who is tuned into the extent to which altered cards actually permeate this hobby should have been able to predict the dissolution of any guarantee program that any of the TPGs pretended to offer. Just add up the total value of their potential exposure and compare that against their valuations as companies. They don't really have a choice here if they wish to remain in business.

What a sad commentary on third party grading, if the companies cannot even afford to stand behind their services. Imagine a car manufacturer that could not afford to offer a warranty. But in the hobby, where stuff, and flips, trump all, nothing seems to matter.

[Snapolit1]

Do people think that if they kiss ass on grading companies in a public forum they might potentially get better grades down the road?

[Lorewalker]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

Do people think that if they kiss ass on grading companies in a public forum they might potentially get better grades down the road?

LOL! They might think that but what they fail to take into account is that the grading companies likely do not read this drivel. They would if we stopped sending them our cards but that happens a day after never.

[parkplace33]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

Do people think that if they kiss ass on grading companies in a public forum they might potentially get better grades down the road?

Not necessarily , but I was contacted by a board member years ago who told me he doesn’t comment on grading companies at all. Too many eyes on the board he said.

[Johnny630]

Originally Posted by parkplace33

Not necessarily , but I was contacted by a board member years ago who told me he doesn’t comment on grading companies at all. Too many eyes on the board he said.

They 100% monitor these boards.