SGG at the National - Onsite Grading?

[rand1com]

In the early 2000's, they had lines at the National. Their grading prices were much cheaper than PSA and they were actually considered on par with PSA grading tobacco cards at that time.

I have personally seen collectors/dealers submit hundreds of cards at a time with them at multiple Nationals in that earlier era.

I agree with Peter that the ownership has enough money and could care less whether they are #3 or #4 in the graded card market.

I think they could generate a lot of business even at a $25 level at the National with some limits as you suggest but it is very unlikely they would undertake such a venture.

They promised a new and better registry 3 years ago when they zapped their old one and alas, nothing.

They are what they are. A competent grading company that has great turn times but no desire to be more than they are.

In the early 2000's they at least tried to give PSA some level of competition.

No longer do they try!

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by rand1com

In the early 2000's, they had lines at the National. Their grading prices were much cheaper than PSA and they were actually considered on par with PSA grading tobacco cards at that time.

I have personally seen collectors/dealers submit hundreds of cards at a time with them at multiple Nationals in that earlier era.

I agree with Peter that the ownership has enough money and could care less whether they are #3 or #4 in the graded card market.

I think they could generate a lot of business even at a $25 level at the National with some limits as you suggest but it is very unlikely they would undertake such a venture.

They promised a new and better registry 3 years ago when they zapped their old one and alas, nothing.

They are what they are. A competent grading company that has great turn times but no desire to be more than they are.

In the early 2000's they at least tried to give PSA some level of competition.

No longer do they try!

Yep. They have their loyal customers, the owner and employees can grade their own cards, it's all good.

[Johnny630]

Low Expectations Yield Low Results/Stagnant Results....Business as usual at Boca.

Last Year they did Pre Gradin at the National. how did they work out ?

So this year prob just take home subs or nothing.

I wish their ownership tried a little to improve.

[ClementeFanOh]

Johnny360- do you mean hiring a ton of unqualified people and producing glacial turnaround times nevertheless? That kind of “improvement”? Yeah…no. These dissents read very much like they are being written by guys who blow a gasket when the drive thru is down at their go-to place. It’s got zero to do with “low expectations” and that other nonsense. They aren’t grading on site because they have judged it doesn’t fit the strength of their business. How many of you who are complaining about this small “ affront”, would knowingly do something against your own business interest due to comments that basically boil down to online whining? What is that number? None of you? Got it…File this under “no big deal” and enjoy the National. Good heavens! Trent King

[Lorewalker]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Yep. They have their loyal customers, the owner and employees can grade their own cards, it's all good.

The hobby seems overly forgiving of this.

I don't think SGC is trying to steal business from any other TPG. Seems there is plenty of business for all concerned. If and when they need to make more money or take more of the market, they will, or at least they will try. Not going to the National is a very smart business move for them. Those who are all bent out of shape over it will still submit to them.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Lorewalker

The hobby seems overly forgiving of this.

I don't think SGC is trying to steal business from any other TPG. Seems there is plenty of business for all concerned. If and when they need to make more money or take more of the market, they will, or at least they will try. Not going to the National is a very smart business move for them. Those who are all bent out of shape over it will still submit to them.

As long as the SGC faithful get their own cards back quickly and within two grades of accurate, they seem happy. After my last sub which I've posted about, I'm in the never again category, I think, unless there is some way to assure the grader knows vintage.

[parkplace33]

Originally Posted by rand1com

In the early 2000's, they had lines at the National. Their grading prices were much cheaper than PSA and they were actually considered on par with PSA grading tobacco cards at that time.

I have personally seen collectors/dealers submit hundreds of cards at a time with them at multiple Nationals in that earlier era.

I agree with Peter that the ownership has enough money and could care less whether they are #3 or #4 in the graded card market.

I think they could generate a lot of business even at a $25 level at the National with some limits as you suggest but it is very unlikely they would undertake such a venture.

They promised a new and better registry 3 years ago when they zapped their old one and alas, nothing.

They are what they are. A competent grading company that has great turn times but no desire to be more than they are.

In the early 2000's they at least tried to give PSA some level of competition.

No longer do they try!

Agree. And the lack of a registry continues to boggle my mind.

[Snowman]

Originally Posted by parkplace33

Agree. And the lack of a registry continues to boggle my mind.

Web developers and server admins cost money. They can't just give them $20 per hour and put them through a 5 hour training course like they can with graders. Who knew?

[rand1com]

Originally Posted by Snowman

Web developers and server admins cost money. They can't just give them $20 per hour and put them through a 5 hour training course like they can with graders. Who knew?

They obviously had trained employees to do these tasks when they HAD a registry for many years. If they could not improve on it, they should have just kept the existing one.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Originally Posted by Snowman

Web developers and server admins cost money. They can't just give them $20 per hour and put them through a 5 hour training course like they can with graders. Who knew?

The bigger problem was the story we were fed by SGC that a new one was coming. What you said may be true, but then don't promise a new one.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards

The bigger problem was the story we were fed by SGC that a new one was coming. What you said may be true, but then don't promise a new one.

They promised me they were just tinkering with the wording of their guarantee and it would be back on the website shortly. This was, maybe three plus years ago.

[raulus]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

They promised me they were just tinkering with the wording of their guarantee and it would be back on the website shortly. This was, maybe three plus years ago.

Which is worse?

No guarantee, or a meaningless guarantee?

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by raulus

Which is worse?

No guarantee, or a meaningless guarantee?

And therefore what? It was OK to drop the guarantee and lie about it? I am not sure I see your point.

[Vintagedeputy]

Originally Posted by parkplace33

Agree. And the lack of a registry continues to boggle my mind.

As part of my monthly nagging that I do to them, I gave them Hell again about the registry while in Chantilly last week.

[parkplace33]

Originally Posted by Vintagedeputy

As part of my monthly nagging that I do to them, I gave them Hell again about the registry while in Chantilly last week.

What was the response?

[Vintagedeputy]

Originally Posted by parkplace33

What was the response?

They said that after every show, they have a sit-down to discuss customer concerns that were brought up at the show and the registry is always among the the top three things mentioned. They understand collectors want it, but I don’t know that they had a solid reply beyond that.